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Deadzone174 Posted: 03:00 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780824
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It's called Apophis. It's 390m wide. And it could hit Earth in 31 years' time.

In Egyptian myth, Apophis was the ancient spirit of evil and destruction, a demon that was determined to plunge the world into eternal darkness.

A fitting name, astronomers reasoned, for a menace now hurtling towards Earth from outerspace. Scientists are monitoring the progress of a 390-metre wide asteroid discovered last year that is potentially on a collision course with the planet, and are imploring governments to decide on a strategy for dealing with it.

Nasa has estimated that an impact from Apophis, which has an outside chance of hitting the Earth in 2036, would release more than 100,000 times the energy released in the nuclear blast over Hiroshima. Thousands of square kilometres would be directly affected by the blast but the whole of the Earth would see the effects of the dust released into the atmosphere.

And, scientists insist, there is actually very little time left to decide. At a recent meeting of experts in near-Earth objects (NEOs) in London, scientists said it could take decades to design, test and build the required technology to deflect the asteroid. Monica Grady, an expert in meteorites at the Open University, said: "It's a question of when, not if, a near Earth object collides with Earth. Many of the smaller objects break up when they reach the Earth's atmosphere and have no impact. However, a NEO larger than 1km [wide] will collide with Earth every few hundred thousand years and a NEO larger than 6km, which could cause mass extinction, will collide with Earth every hundred million years. We are overdue for a big one."

Apophis had been intermittently tracked since its discovery in June last year but, in December, it started causing serious concern. Projecting the orbit of the asteroid into the future, astronomers had calculated that the odds of it hitting the Earth in 2029 were alarming. As more observations came in, the odds got higher.

Having more than 20 years warning of potential impact might seem plenty of time. But, at last week's meeting, Andrea Carusi, president of the Spaceguard Foundation, said that the time for governments to make decisions on what to do was now, to give scientists time to prepare mitigation missions. At the peak of concern, Apophis asteroid was placed at four out of 10 on the Torino scale - a measure of the threat posed by an NEO where 10 is a certain collision which could cause a global catastrophe. This was the highest of any asteroid in recorded history and it had a 1 in 37 chance of hitting the Earth. The threat of a collision in 2029 was eventually ruled out at the end of last year.

Alan Fitzsimmons, an astronomer from Queen's University Belfast, said: "When it does pass close to us on April 13 2029, the Earth will deflect it and change its orbit. There's a small possibility that if it passes through a particular point in space, the so-called keyhole, ... the Earth's gravity will change things so that when it comes back around again in 2036, it will collide with us." The chance of Apophis passing through the keyhole, a 600-metre patch of space, is 1 in 5,500 based on current information.

There are no shortage of ideas on how to deflect asteroids. The Advanced Concepts Team at the European Space Agency have led the effort in designing a range of satellites and rockets to nudge asteroids on a collision course for Earth into a different orbit.

No technology has been left unconsidered, even potentially dangerous ideas such as nuclear powered spacecraft. "The advantage of nuclear propulsion is a lot of power," said Prof Fitzsimmons. "The negative thing is that ... we haven't done it yet. Whereas with solar electric propulsion, there are several spacecraft now that do use this technology so we're fairly confident it would work."

The favoured method is also potentially the easiest - throwing a spacecraft at an asteroid to change its direction. Esa plans to test this idea with its Don Quixote mission, where two satellites will be sent to an asteroid. One of them, Hidalgo, will collide with the asteroid at high speed while the other, Sancho, will measure the change in the object's orbit. Decisions on the actual design of these probes will be made in the coming months, with launch expected some time in the next decade. One idea that seems to have no support from astronomers is the use of explosives.

Prof Fitzsimmons. "If you explode too close to impact, perhaps you'll get hit by several fragments rather than one, so you spread out the area of damage."

In September, scientists at Strathclyde and Glasgow universities began computer simulations to work out the feasibility of changing the directions of asteroids on a collision course for Earth. In spring next year, there will be another opportunity for radar observations of Apophis that will help astronomers work out possible future orbits of the asteroid more accurately.

If, at that stage, they cannot rule out an impact with Earth in 2036, the next chance to make better observations will not be until 2013. Nasa has argued that a final decision on what to do about Apophis will have to be made at that stage.

"It may be a decision in 2013 whether or not to go ahead with a full-blown mitigation mission, but we need to start planning it before 2013," said Prof Fitzsimmons. In 2029, astronomers will know for sure if Apophis will pose a threat in 2036. If the worst-case scenarios turn out to be true and the Earth is not prepared, it will be too late. "If we wait until 2029, it would seem unlikely that you'd be able to do anything about 2036," said Mr Yates.

Information taken from here.

What are your thought on this?

PS. This was posted in 2005, but just came across.

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ShadowStriker64 Posted: 03:29 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780832
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Shoot a nuke in 2029 when its close. problem solved. or do the thing in armegeddon and blow hte nuke up on the metoer.


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.Vain Posted: 03:44 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780837
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So 2012 isnt going to happen then? ****

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ShadowStriker64 Posted: 03:47 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780839
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i agree and we had all the hype as well.


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.Vain Posted: 04:01 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780843
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Wait, the swearing filter has been lifted or is it just my phone?

Topic: I rather die in my 20s then my 40s.


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ShadowStriker64 Posted: 04:04 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780848
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its been lifted?i can see it

yea i would rather die at 16 then 40


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.Vain Posted: 04:20 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780854
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Oh look, it got unlifted. Oh well, asterisks looks better than the original swearings [which is really stupid as how we use words such as sex,porn,rape,etc which is abruptly more mature than swearing]

No, lets all just build a high-tech spaceship and load people onto it and leave hobos behind and search for a new Earth. Screw this planet, why save it. Already covered in filth.


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SomeWhere Posted: 04:27 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780860
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good, then 2012 won't happen.










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Ryuujin Posted: 08:19 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780903
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I say we build a giant hero to defend Earth! :D



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Gamerad Posted: 08:46 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780915
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I just recently studied NEOs in physics, there are many defences the government could use, and the technology obviously will be improved in those times, so I don't think it's much to worry about.

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Xeta Posted: 09:51 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780927
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I heard of this a few months ago. Hopefully it doesn't.

But to everyone saying "BL0W IT UP LAWL", blowing it up would be very bad, actually.
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Ryuujin Posted: 10:01 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780937
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Why? It would bust into tiny pieces, which would then be dissolved in Earth's atmosphere. There wouldn't be anything to worry about if it were nuked.
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yossy666 Posted: 10:06 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780939
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This is pretty cool. Although not really any threat unless our major nations are run by retards when it happens.
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dx_hbk Posted: 10:29 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780950
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"As of October 7, 2009, refinements to the precovery images of Apophis by the University of Hawaii's Institute for Astronomy, the 90-inch Bok Telescope, and the Arecibo Observatory have generated a refined path that reduces the odds of a April 13, 2036 impact to about 1 in 250,000." taken from wiki.

i say there is a very low chance of it hitting us nothing to worry about =P.

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Volke Posted: 10:57 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780959
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A 1 in 250,000 chance of an asteroid hitting Earth in 26 years' time (at which point, technology will be more advanced) is not going to scare me.

But yes, blowing it up would be problematic, and excuse my lack of knowledge on radiation, but wouldn't the radiation from a nuclear bomb prove to be a thread to the planet, in some way, if we blast Apophis into oblivion just outside our atmosphere? My knowledge on this is limited, so no fail images, please.
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geezerguy Posted: 11:05 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780962
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I really doubt the asteroid with hit us. Wasn't there another asteroid scare a few years ago? It might have been the same as this one, can't remember, but if it wasn't, then look, NOTHING HAPPENED.

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Detective Naoto Posted: 12:10 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2780997
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This is perfect.

Build a giant robot. And find pilots to pilot it and destroy the asteroids! We can call the asteroids that dissolve "Mint Drops" and the ones that need to be punched out/moved by the robot "Lemon Drops".

I'm up for piloting job.
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coachcline Posted: 13:52 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2781043
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This theory is better than the 2012 one because it isn't based off of so called "prophecies" & predictions made by ancient prophets who used intoxication to draw predictions. I think we could probably come up with some way to destroy or deflect this asteroid before is poses any immediate threat.

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Ryuujin Posted: 13:58 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2781046
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Detective Naoto said:This is perfect.

Build a giant robot. And find pilots to pilot it and destroy the asteroids! We can call the asteroids that dissolve "Mint Drops" and the ones that need to be punched out/moved by the robot "Lemon Drops".

I'm up for piloting job.
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Detective Naoto Posted: 14:09 Jan02 2010 Post ID: 2781050
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It's the best job in the world.
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