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Post ID: 3330450 Posted at: 17-Jul-2014 21:01:46
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Just recently, a MH-17 plane flying over Ukraine was shot down, killing all 298 passengers on board. From what I've heard, Russia was funding money for the weapon that was used to bring down the plane. Both countries are blaming each other for this catastrophe.

What do you think on this tragedy? Who is to blame? Is this an act of terrorism? Feel free to debate and discuss your thoughts on this tragedy.

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Post ID: 3330452 Posted at: 17-Jul-2014 21:18:27
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Update: It is now being said that it is likely Russia shot down the plane.If any information I have posted is wrong, please correct me.

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Post ID: 3330520 Posted at: 18-Jul-2014 11:55:42
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Waiting to see how this plays out, no comment so far.

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Post ID: 3330527 Posted at: 18-Jul-2014 12:21:46
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I'm hoping that this will eventually lead to Red Dawn...
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Post ID: 3330578 Posted at: 18-Jul-2014 20:18:10
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Is there a way this thread can be re-named to MH-17 Shot Down By Russian Military?

Some info I've heard on the news, and gathered myself:
298 were on board.
No-one survived the crash.
The Russian military shot the plane down, 'apparently' thinking it was a Ukrainian military plane.
154 people from the Netherlands were on board.
43 from Malaysia.
28 from Australia.
12 from Indonesia.
9 from the UK.
4 from Germany.
Also 4 from Belgium.
3 from the Philippians.
1 from Canada.
40 people are unverified.
(Some of this information may be outdated)

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Post ID: 3330580 Posted at: 18-Jul-2014 20:22:50
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With an Admin. I don't get much news coverage out here so fill me in on this story.
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Post ID: 3330587 Posted at: 18-Jul-2014 20:34:56
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Just searching MH-17 on the internet gives you dozens of pages & articles on the story.

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Post ID: 3330617 Posted at: 18-Jul-2014 22:21:01
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The current consensus in the western world is that it was shot down by the separatists when they thought it was a Ukrainian military cargo plane. They thought the airspace was closed from passenger traffic.

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Post ID: 3330628 Posted at: 18-Jul-2014 23:02:39
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That's bull. A commercial airliner looks nothing like a cargo plane. Especially at rocket range.
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Post ID: 3330636 Posted at: 19-Jul-2014 00:35:11
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I'm sure you seen what both look like at 30k feet then?
Don't make assumptions like that, planes at that height are barely visible to the naked eye, They're using radars, but because they lacked all the stations usually used for S.A.M's, they couldn't confirm what the plane was. And since they thought the airspace was closed for commercial traffic, they assumed it was a Ukrainian cargo plane.

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Post ID: 3330637 Posted at: 19-Jul-2014 00:39:26
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I assumed it was shot down by a rocket launcher. You can't hit a plane at 30,000 feet with a rocket launcher.
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Post ID: 3330639 Posted at: 19-Jul-2014 00:42:52
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It was shot down by a Surface-to-Air Missile

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Post ID: 3330641 Posted at: 19-Jul-2014 00:44:16
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Well now that's a different story.
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Post ID: 3330763 Posted at: 19-Jul-2014 12:52:33
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I edited your total, leaving out who it was shot down by, since I haven't read any updates. RIP to those killed.


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Post ID: 3330808 Posted at: 19-Jul-2014 20:07:58
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Indeed RIP. How is Obama responding to this?
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Post ID: 3330852 Posted at: 20-Jul-2014 03:25:30
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At least 36 Australians were on board. RIP.

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Post ID: 3330922 Posted at: 20-Jul-2014 12:53:38
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That sucks. Where was it flying from?
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Post ID: 3331009 Posted at: 20-Jul-2014 23:59:35
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Amsterdam I think.

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Post ID: 3331029 Posted at: 21-Jul-2014 00:50:30
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Any Americans onboard?
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Post ID: 3331052 Posted at: 21-Jul-2014 07:36:23
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There are still some passengers unidentified but It's most likely there were 0 Americans on board.

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