Peace in the middle east=Will it ever happen?

So what do you think? I thought about bringing up this question because I think many people would disscus it here. I think it would happen sometime but not right now, as the situation looks like there now with all the wars and conflicts with the countries.

Oh come on!!!

I was gonna do this....


I, personally, feel that peace is a high priority, but it won't be easy, especially in regards to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

The best option, I think, is to make a 20-mile-wide DMZ on the border bteween Israel and it's Palestinian neighbor.

Yes, you're right, peace isn't easy to make between all those countries, but would a border solve anything? That would only make things worse because they would start to try go through the gate with military forces and attack the whole ****, so that wouldn't exactley be a good idea. If it was bomb safe of course, but i'd doubt any poor countries would have afford that.

On 02-Jun-2008 Flareon Dude_ said:

Oh come on!!!

I was gonna do this....


I, personally, feel that peace is a high priority, but it won't be easy, especially in regards to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

The best option, I think, is to make a 20-mile-wide DMZ on the border bteween Israel and it's Palestinian neighbor.

Making that zone would probably only add to the problem since even if they put it bang between the 2 there would both lose 10 miles and isn't the whole thing about territory to start with?

I'm not too sure what we should do, if we tried to intervene we would most likely make the situation worse, the only thing I can think of at the moment is to just leave them to it and keep going with the peace talks, but thats hardly going to solve anything.

This thread... *headaches*

The Muslim/Arab that are in power of their respective nations want to take over the world.

Quite literally.

Going along with the simplicity of this light hearted and ill informed discussion, I'll end by saying "Yeah", as in yeah, they will eventually achieve peace over massive blood shed when people basically abandon the will to fight for something they believe in.

Or find new beliefs.

If we actually want to resolve the issue, we should probably tackle it at the source; must brainwash the Islamic Fundamentalists to our side, etc etc etc.

On 03-Jun-2008 super craig said:

Making that zone would probably only add to the problem since even if they put it bang between the 2 there would both lose 10 miles and isn't the whole thing about territory to start with?

I'm not too sure what we should do, if we tried to intervene we would most likely make the situation worse, the only thing I can think of at the moment is to just leave them to it and keep going with the peace talks, but thats hardly going to solve anything.

We actually are intervening bi-proxy, so to say, because Israel is an American Ally, and we supply them with weapons.

Nah it will never go away. Unless they all run out of money to fund their arms..but as FD quite rightly said, westerners fund them so no i dont see peace anytime soon without the aid of a huge earth shattering bomb.

I came up with another idea:
Every country there have to cast out their own belifs. As long as they don't have their religion left they can't fight about anything.

On 03-Jun-2008 PhilXZ said:

Of course not!

And why not? I'm pretty sure I've told you this before, you need to back up your opinions on this board. Post deleted.

I hope but with all the arguments they probably wont it's been like this for hundreds of years they dont seem like there getting along.

On 07-Jun-2008 SomeWhere said:

I came up with another idea:
Every country there have to cast out their own belifs. As long as they don't have their religion left they can't fight about anything.

A bit easier said than done don't you think? Besides while a lot of the arguements in the Middle East may revolve around religion many are no longer about that, it has gone on for so long that people hate each other just simply because they are brought up to hate them, its all they know how to treat each other.

Uummm.... Good argument, but I meant it like this: If all countries throw away their own belifs they could create a huge wall between them, and then, let's say for about 60 years then it will eventually happend.

On 09-Jun-2008 SomeWhere said:

Uummm.... Good argument, but I meant it like this: If all countries throw away their own belifs they could create a huge wall between them, and then, let's say for about 60 years then it will eventually happend.

There is a huge wall already between Israel and Palastine and that has hardly solved anything, even if you did get them to through away their religion they would argue about where the wall was placed, which I think contributes quite a bit to the current conflict. Another problem would then be that people who want nothing to do with the conflict would be resticted due to no fault of their own, by the wall. Having a wall might only serve to fester the hatred between them.

Ye.... probably right.... But it seems like their religions have been causin alot of problem between these two countries, make them cast their own belifs MIGHT make them change their sight of politics in their view. If it doesn't work, then hell, I don't know what will.

On 18-Jun-2008 SomeWhere said:

Ye.... probably right.... But it seems like their religions have been causin alot of problem between these two countries, make them cast their own belifs MIGHT make them change their sight of politics in their view. If it doesn't work, then hell, I don't know what will.

No doubt if religion wasn't an issue I don't think it would have escalted as it has, or gone on for as long as it has. Unfortunately I think theres sod all we can do on the religion front, its so deeply ingrained into the trouble that it would be impossible to get rid of it. To be honest I think this will only ever end when either one of the factions wipes the other one out.

I dont think the Conflict is going to stop anytime soon. Its hard to change peoples minds when your fighting for it... I forgot what i was going to say lol

As long as they have oil and muslim extremists, it wont end.
and they will most likely always have muslim extremism.
so no.

It's called Islamic Fundamentalism, and it's not the leading cause of it all.


Only 2%, at most, of all Islamic Fundamentalists are violent and/or terrorists. When someone is an Islamic Fundamentalist, it just merely means they have a strict interperetation of the Qoran. For example, it says somwhere in the Koran, I think, that the woman's place is to work at home, or something along those lines. Islamic Fundamentalists take that to heart and do not allow their women to leave the home. At all. The 2% of the people who do use terrorism wo just so happen to be Muslim take the 'defend your religion' part way too far and believe in terrorism as a holy way to defend their religion, when, really, Islam has nothing to do with any of it, most of the time. Hence, jihad usually becomes an issue with which to be dealt.

Really, the thing with Islamic Fundamentalists is they just use the Qoran as an excuse to commit acts of terror against others, especially in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The Palestinian Islamic Fundamentalists basically say that the Jews have occupied the lands that do not rightfully belong to them, but the Palestinians, and they use this as an excuse to defend their religion and use acts of terror to create the problems the Middle East faces, today.

Iran can probably easily take over Iraq, and Pakistan is already trying to take over much of India because of religious conflicts. If there is a large war or many smaller wars in the middle east, it would effect world economy because most of the oil comes from there, and we will all be in a crisis. Unless there is peace in the middle east, we are all doomed, and ignorant religious conflicts are preventing that peace. So, it is VERY unlikely, if not impossible, for there to be total peace in the middle east, ensuring our survival as human beings.

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On 30-Jun-2008 ratchet7777 said:

Iran can probably easily take over Iraq, and Pakistan is already trying to take over much of India because of religious conflicts. If there is a large war or many smaller wars in the middle east, it would effect world economy because most of the oil comes from there, and we will all be in a crisis. Unless there is peace in the middle east, we are all doomed, and ignorant religious conflicts are preventing that peace. So, it is VERY unlikely, if not impossible, for there to be total peace in the middle east, ensuring our survival as human beings.

Agreed. Most likely however peace will come at the cost of thousands of lifes.