Car tuning

On 03-Apr-2008 Kenny 2x4 said:

Speaking of the Zonda my setup tips for it in Drag: (it's still slightly work in progress, but this set up can still atleast get you around 5.7 to 5.8 seconds)
Stage 4 all. No re-stocking. The Zonda needs a heck lot of grip!
Spoiler 206. Zones: 0, 20, 0, 10
Stock Widebody Kit
Hood: whatever you want really.

Suspension now:
F Compression: 0
R Compresion: + 10
F Rebound: 0
R Rebound: + 10
F Spring: 0
R Spring: + 10
Ride Height: + 10
F Anti-Roll bar: 0
R Anti-Roll bar: 0
F tyre Pressure: 0
R tyre Pressure: + 5 (I know this sounds strange, but I will explain at the bottom of this post)
TOE: 0
Camber: 0
Caster: 0
Steering Ratio: 0

Engine:
CAM Timing: 0
Start Boost: + 10
End Boost + 10
Nitrous Pressure: 0
Nitrous Jetting Flow Rate: 0

Gears and Brakes: Leave all at default!

Wheels (this is very important!):
I'm going to use the example of the BBS GT wheel zones:
Front: 0, 50, 0, 100
Rear: 0, 50, 100, 100

Okay the reason why there is more pressure at the rear is because depending on how much grip is available it can actually slow down a car.
Tyres work in two ways to get grip: adhesion (the stickiness of it) and deformation (how it changes shape over bumps of which when it does so, it reduces energy and grip increases). Deformation can also be altered with tyre pressures!
The grippiest tyre would be super sticky and changes shape so easily a baby could change it! However, this means the car means a huge amount of torque to move so it's illogical. So there has to be a balance in essence.
Now with a bit more pressure, the Zonda can still get the grip it requires for it to work, but now because the tyre doesn't deform as much so therefore less grip there as well.
If you can't understand that, don't worry! Even tyre engineers still find it a struggle to understand it sometimes because of so many factors.

not bad, my tip is to save money and dont bother buy brake since you arent using them for a drag race

Did you buy brakes for the Camaro though?
I only have brakes for the Zonda because I know I said you need less grip to get it moving, but if I use the stock brake package it's harder to fine tune it.

nope, it is recomended in so many forums and tuning guides that dont bother buy brakes since they arent designed to make your care go faster

First of all I haven't been here for ages, so I'm glad to be back. Second, I am with you on the brakes thing.

ok sinc emost of yous didnt like my supra before well i have now modified it, sadly i cant try it with stage 4 due to a download that stops from using the cheat but i can still get 6.24sec with it

All stage 3

body = stock autoscupt
spoiler = stock
get the picture?

suspension
1. - 10
2. + 10
3.-10
4.+10
etc
once you reach ride height
ride height = +10
tyre pressure F = high
R = low

engine
All +10

gearing
1st = -10
2nd = 0
3rd = +3
4th = +7
5th = +10
6th = 0 (since u dont need it)
final = +10

brakes - who needs them

also once done swap back to stage 2 suspension

when driving take off and 1st once you reach 3rd fire nos and most important dont bother got to 6th since you can reach the games top speed in 5th

On 04-Apr-2008 fish man said:

ok sinc emost of yous didnt like my supra before well i have now modified it, sadly i cant try it with stage 4 due to a download that stops from using the cheat but i can still get 6.24sec with it

All stage 3

body = stock autoscupt
spoiler = stock
get the picture?

suspension
1. - 10
2. + 10
3.-10
4.+10
etc
once you reach ride height
ride height = +10
tyre pressure F = high
R = low

engine
All +10

gearing
1st = -10
2nd = 0
3rd = +3
4th = +7
5th = +10
6th = 0 (since u dont need it)
final = +10

brakes - who needs them

also once done swap back to stage 2 suspension

when driving take off and 1st once you reach 3rd fire nos and most important dont bother got to 6th since you can reach the games top speed in 5th

Yea I got around that time aswell with my stage 3 supra, pretty good still

i need to correct myself, after a few runs i deiscovered on the right track the car was able run 5.97

anyway i have a new facination with tuners so by the end of the week the following cars will be posted:
drag
nissan silvia s15 - needs a few more tweaks
nissan 240sx- able to run high 6's and low 7s
67 gt500 - rumoured that it can do under 7 sec so im going to give it a try


drift
67 gt500 - havent started yet


« Last edited by fish man on Apr 5th 2008 »

Tip for the 67 GT500 in drift. Try a similar set up with it when compared to the Silvia. It somehow finds a way to autocorrect.

i was going to do that anyway

Lol, a mod doubled post. xD
~DOUBLE POST = DEAD MEAT~

Here is what fish man said:
ok i now need help with my supra that im tunning if anyone has a supra with all stage 4 parts and plays on the 360 please send me it, if my calculations are correct then i should do under 5 sec. so please someone send me it

gamertag - swordfishman

Supra for Drift Purposes

Supra has Roughly 775 BHP
Parts:
Engine- Stage 3
DriveTrain- Stage 3
Forced Induction- 3
Suspension- Stage 3
Brakes- Stage 3
Tires- Stage 3
Nos- Stage 3
(we don't have Stage 4 for this Beast yet)

Suspension
F shock = 0
R shock = +9
F rebound = 0
R rebound = +7
F spring rate = 0
R spring rate = +8
Ride height = -7
F roll bar = 0
R roll bar = +6
F tire = -10
R tire = +10
TOE = +3
Camber = +2
Caster = +4
Steering = -10


Engine
Cam = +10
Start boost = +1
End boost = +10
Nitrous pressure = +10

Drivetrain
1. = -8
2. = -7
3. =-6
4. –5
5. –3
6. 0\
final = -5

brakes
bias = 0
pressure = +5
handbrake = +10

I usually place the NoS Flow somewhat high...

for drag cars yes, other cars this may very

On 18-Apr-2008 tbug2007 said:

I usually place the NoS Flow somewhat high...

*Cringes* Saying NOS to refer to the use of Nitrous is incorrect since NOS stands for Nitrous Oxide System.
I tend to have my flow rate balanced i.e. in the middle unless of course it's drag or the car needs more power.

I'm having trouble in drift.
Mind giving me the RX-7's setup that you used Kenny?

he posted one earlier it could be it anyway here it is

rx7 from KENNY 2x4

Anyways settings for an RX-7 drift that isn't Aki Kimura's settings though close enough:
Modifications: Stage 4 everything apart from the Brakes (but stock the Tyres also after tuning them)
Body:
Spoiler: Genterra 204
Spoiler Zones in order: 75, 50, 100, 35
Hood: leave at stock
Stratos Widebody kit 7: leave all zones as they are
Roll cage if you wish btw. Doesn't really matter.
SUSPENSION (- means to the left of default, + means right of default)
Front Shock Compression: 0
Rear Shock Compression: 0
Front Shock Rebound: 0
Rear Shock Rebound: 0
Front Springs: 0
Rear Springs: 0
Ride Height: -10
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 0
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 0
Tyre Pressures: both -10
Toe: 0
Camber: 0
Caster: 0
Steering Ratio: 0
ENGINE:
CAM Timing: 0
Start and End Boost to maximum
Nitrous pressure and Jetting flow rate: 0
GearBox ratios:
All 0

is that camaro tune setup for the xbox or for the ps3?

does anyone have the tuning for the RoadRunner the lowest i can get is 7.48 and that only with lvl three parts an that brings another question how do i get the lvl 4 parts in a faster way since the cheat is gone now?

Please do not double post, just edit next time. Here are the Forum Rules to refer to.
For everyone else's benefit ThaPrestige had this to say: "does anyone have the tuning for the RoadRunner the lowest i can get is 7.48 and that only with lvl three parts an that brings another question how do i get the lvl 4 parts in a faster way since the cheat is gone now?".
It should work for the XBox 360 as well as far as I know.
In addition, the cheat is only gone if you have downloaded the patch.

this my silvia grip setup

all lvl 3 parts

BTW it only has 5 gears so dont get mixed up

SUSPENSION
-5
+2
-2
+4
-2
+4
-7
-3
+3
-2
-1
-2
-5
+3
-2

ENGINE
+4
+3
+7
+6
+5

DRIVETRAIN
-10
-9
-7
-6
-6
+3

BRAKES
+7
-2
+3

this is my first time tuning so dont be harsh

« Last edited by jimmyrock4 on Apr 27th 2008 »