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Cipher_Wizard Posted at: 08:29 Sep25 2005 Post ID: 433030
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This is a weird team, it just came into my head.

Charizard@Leftovers

Belly Drum
Earthquake
Aerial Ace
Flamethrower

Metagross@Leftovers

Meteor Mash
Agility
Substitute
Shadow Ball

Grumpig@Leftovers

Magic Coat
Psychic
Calm Mind
Hidden Power- Ice

Latios@Soul Dew

Psychic
Dragon Claw
Calm Mind
Recover

Sandslash@Liechi Berry

Rock Slide
Brick Break
Double Team
Swords Dance

Machamp@Choice Band

Counter
Frustration
Cross Chop
Facade
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Bronco11 Posted at: 08:37 Sep25 2005 Post ID: 433037
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?!?!?!?!? Who uses Charizard anyways? Competitive Team rating 4/10.
bleepman Posted at: 12:41 Sep25 2005 Post ID: 433388
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this ISN"T competetive, this is INGAME.
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Cipher_Wizard Posted at: 17:44 Sep26 2005 Post ID: 435264
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I'm seeing a lack of balanced teams lately(even in my own game pak)

Let's see if we can set up a format thread, guys.
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Fwank Posted at: 10:16 Sep27 2005 Post ID: 436076
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why? aren't these threads enough?
Cipher_Wizard Posted at: 18:33 Sep27 2005 Post ID: 436707
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Sorry, that came out wrong. What I meant was, why don't experienced players like us put up a format so new players can learn something from us.
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Fwank Posted at: 11:19 Sep28 2005 Post ID: 437575
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don't we do that ALREADY ?
Cipher_Wizard Posted at: 14:17 Sep28 2005 Post ID: 437740
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I guess we do. Hey, somebody post a team here!
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Fwank Posted at: 07:18 Sep29 2005 Post ID: 439107
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erm...

gengar@leftovers
hypnosis
confuse ray
perish song
mean look

wobbuffet@leftovers
encore
counter
mirror coat
safeguard

metagross@leftovers
agility
shadowball
earthquake
explosion

erm... it's one hit wonder team... 3v3 will defenateli win... but... at what cost...
gigorga Posted at: 11:01 Sep29 2005 Post ID: 439202
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Guys, this is my first team, so if there are any needed improvements, say so. Here goes:

Ludicolo@Leftovers
Trait:Rain Dish
-Leech Seed
-Surf
-Giga Drain
-Rain Dance

Heracross@Salac Berry
Trait:Guts
-Endure
-Reversal
-Megahorn
-Bulk Up

Jirachi@Leftovers
Trait:Serene Grace
-Water Pulse
-Thunder
-Rain Dance
-Calm Mind
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bleepman Posted at: 14:16 Sep29 2005 Post ID: 439353
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rain dish is the MOST useless trait for ludicolo. with swift swim it outspeeds like EVERYTHING, which means that it can kill some things as opposed to just annoying. ice beam over surf to kill more things.

heracross- swords dance over bulk up. or use the choiceband set: focuspunch, megahorn, rockslide, and brickbreak/filler. two fighting moves only becuase focuspunch takes prediction.

jirachi- water pulse sucks. so does thunderdancing. calm mind is the only good move you have... calm mind, thunderbolt, psychic, substitute.
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Cipher_Wizard Posted at: 15:00 Sep29 2005 Post ID: 439405
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Serene Grace would promote the added effects(paralysis and confusion)of Water Pulse and confusion. While your opponent is struggling with lack of speed and confusion, you can Calm Mind, and sweep when the confusion's over. Rain Dance powers up Water Pulse anyway.

And as for Ludicolo, I thought it could be a major healer/annoyer, but it would be better off with Swift Swim, though. I didn't know that it could have that ability. With Ice Beam, it could knock out its weaknesses, which are Flying and Bug. Rain Dance also powers up Surf as well as Swift Swim, though... better to exploit weaknesses than defend against Fire.

For Heracross, Bleep's right. Swords Dance provides quick attack raising in tight situations, but I'm not interested in the Choice Band set. Guts + Salac Berry + low HP + Swords Dance + Reversal=major damage

I just think Jirachi's good the way it is, due to Serene Grace, and added effects can really screw up a strategy. But, maybe I'll consider using a Jirachi with his moveset and seeing which one works better. It is missing Psychic, though. Water Pulse can hurt against its main weaknesses, Ground and Fire.
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bleepman Posted at: 15:32 Sep29 2005 Post ID: 439439
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waterpulse is a really crappy move. it only gets a 30% confusion chance, and power of 90 with the boost. it sucks.
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Fwank Posted at: 01:13 Sep30 2005 Post ID: 440322
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ice beam doesn't knock out bug...

with grace it's doubled, but 60% to CONFUSE isn't worth it... jirachi isn't the best gracer... if this was, say, 60% to paralyse (like thunder) that'll be different... but if however jirachi failed to paralyse, then it'd be tedious... ... ... the reason why this set is crap is becoz other pokes can cause both status faster and much easier (starmie) so... stick to calm minding... take advantage of being a steel type... or you could go nuts with the delay sets... or use wish and cosmic power...

i don't know... that ludicolo seems nice but it's so... blah, like, it can't kill others >< so wats the point... it stalls but thats about it, like good ol burner saurus XD...

flailing is always nice... you've gota watch for quick attacks which will most possibly OHKO you if u endured a KO attack... you could use sub, which guarantees a FP, but lol... well it'll activate a berry for ya too, and allow you to dance, maybe you should try that?

but hey~ gota admit~ it's a nicer team than the other ones we see no?
Cipher_Wizard Posted at: 10:58 Oct07 2005 Post ID: 453384
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On 29-Sep-2005 gigorga said:Guys, this is my first team, so if there are any needed improvements, say so. Here goes:

Ludicolo@Leftovers
Trait:Rain Dish
-Leech Seed
-Surf
-Giga Drain
-Rain Dance

Heracross@Salac Berry
Trait:Guts
-Endure
-Reversal
-Megahorn
-Bulk Up

Jirachi@Leftovers
Trait:Serene Grace
-Water Pulse
-Thunder
-Rain Dance
-Calm Mind
Fwank's correct, this is superior to most other teams we rate here, but... Anyway, I gotta get back to high school, so I'll cut this one short:

Ludicolo:HP Grass, Surf, Ice Beam, Rain Dance.
Heracross:Megahorn, Swords Dance, Rock Slide, Focus Punch.
Jirachi: Calm Mind, Thunderbolt, Psychic, Substitute.

Those are the sets, make 'em happen.
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mega cool Posted at: 06:48 Oct08 2005 Post ID: 455290
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ok i have stopped posting teams but just to get this forum going:
dragonite@shell bell
dragon dance
earthquake
aerial ace
rockslide

Houndoom@petaya
sunny day
flamethrower
crunch
solar beam

Milotic@lum berry/leftovers
surf
icebeam
recover
toxic/mirror coat

Sceptile@petaya/leftovers
leaf blade
thunderpunch
substitute
crunch/dragon claw

Skarmory@leichi berry
toxic
roar
spikes
drill peck/steel wing

Hitmonlee@salac berry
endure
reversal
rockslide
earthquake/brick break
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Cipher_Wizard Posted at: 17:13 Oct08 2005 Post ID: 456427
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On 08-Oct-2005 mega cool said:ok i have stopped posting teams but just to get this forum going:
dragonite@shell bell
dragon dance
earthquake
aerial ace
rockslide

Houndoom@petaya
sunny day
flamethrower
crunch
solar beam

Milotic@lum berry/leftovers
surf
icebeam
recover
toxic/mirror coat

Sceptile@petaya/leftovers
leaf blade
thunderpunch
substitute
crunch/dragon claw

Skarmory@leichi berry
toxic
roar
spikes
drill peck/steel wing

Hitmonlee@salac berry
endure
reversal
rockslide
earthquake/brick break
Okay, here is your rating:

Dragonite: Your moveset is an acceptable one, but exchange Shell Bell for Leftovers, so you can heal while Dragon-dancing.

Houndoom: All good, except don't be afraid to use Substitute.

Hitmonlee: The set is a bit predictable. Many netbattlers and smart in-game trainers are familiar with this set. Endure can be replaced with Bulk Up, Liechi Berry is a better held item, Substitute, Brick Break, and Rock Slide.

Milotic: If this pokemon had a better base attack, it would be easier to use Facade, thus giving an advantage to status conditions. If it got bad enough, Recover+switch to a Heal Beller or Aromatherapy user. Otherwise, all is well.

Sceptile: Sorry man, but I'm not good with Sceptile. Ask somebody else for a rating on this one.

Skarmory: Skarmory is a bit risk-taking when you have the desicion of Toxic/held item Leftovers, or Rest/held item Chesto Berry. I would say the second item/move combo is better, due to a life-saving Rest, which gives you an extra turn at minimum, because if you could survive long enough to spike once and Rest, they're not gonna KO you in one hit. Third most famous Spiker in the game.

Rating: I would give it a 6, because I don't see any double-STAB, so that's good, but it would have deserved a seven if the held items were a tad better, and perhaps an eight if I could rate Sceptile as well as proper items.
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poke champ Posted at: 19:18 Oct09 2005 Post ID: 459500
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I currently have 4 badges and are training. Can someone also recommend a 6th poke.

aerodactyl lv:35
steel wing
ancientpower
earthquake
fly

Wartortle lv:35
ice beam
rapidspin(will go for earthquake or rain dance)
bite
water gun(will go for surf)

gyarados lv:36
return
earthquake
surf
bite(will go for dragon dance)

golem lv:36
seldestruct
defense curl
earthquake
rockslide

alakazam lv:32
psychic
reflect
shadowball
recover

thnx.
worm x Posted at: 13:48 Oct10 2005 Post ID: 460888
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On 28-Sep-2005 Cipher_Wizard said:I guess we do. Hey, somebody post a team here!
I hope Im not doing this for nothing, rate my team please

Kyogre lv 100 ? ice beam-brick break-thunder-water spout
Kyogre lv 100 ? thunder-earthquake-ice beam-water spout
Rayquaza lv 100 ?dragon claw-fly-surf-extremespeed
Jirachi lv 91 ?double edge-future sight-doom desire-psychic
Groudon lv 100-eruption-fire blast-solarebeam-flamethrower
Tyranitar lv 100-ice beam-thunderbolt-crunch-earthquake

thanx - worm x
Fwank Posted at: 07:08 Oct11 2005 Post ID: 461955
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- the kyogre twins don't know surf or calm mind...
- rayquaza is right at home; mediocre and useless at n e thing specific
- delay play jirachi? neigh; no recover or cosmic to last
- groudon is DEAD!!!!!!! YOU KILLED IT !!!! *cries*
- this is not a tyraniboah... nor is it a decent moveset, use your head, not know knee caps

meh, no ratings given until u revive groudon


cipher:

milo-facade = stupid -_-"

sceptile is nice, petaya>leftovers if you substitute, it's nice

skarm = most famous spiker lah, 3rd? wen i hear spiker i onli think of skarm and forry... whois the other one??
and btw leftovers > all, including chestro rest, onli thing that can happen is knock off which will NOT happen =S ... (unless my electrode rocked up...)
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