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Warrior13 Posted: 19:54 Jun18 2019 Post ID: 3448145
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If San Fran doesn't make the Playoffs, especially if Jimmy G is healthy for the entire year, the talks will start. This is year 3/5 for Shannahan/Lynch.

The problem with Houston is they never win a dang playoff game. They got trashed by Indy, and most people thought that they would thrash Indy.

I don't think Varbel is on any type of hot seat as the coach of Tennessee. Mariota, however, is definitely on the hot seat as a starting QB. Who knows, if he gets hurt (like he usually does), Tannehill might just steal his job from him.
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Matt77 Posted: 22:39 Jun18 2019 Post ID: 3448146
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I forgot that last season was his 2nd year at SF. There may well be rumors and talk, but unless they finish 6-10 or lower, he should be safe. I mean, even if they play well, how will they make the playoffs? LA Rams & Seattle will battle it out for the division title, meaning SF need to settle for a wildcard. One of Chicago and Green Bay will probably earn the first, so SF will have one small opportunity. They'll have to rely on as many as 5 other teams who are playoff contenders finishing below them.

Ugh, now the memories come back. 0-30 at home versus Kansas City (who hadn't won a playoff game for literally decades). 7-24 at home versus Indy (6th seed, just). Aggregate of 7-54. They will be interesting now that they start 0-0 rather than 0-3 like they did last season. Had they been 11-2 at week 15 (they were 0-3 and then finished the season 11-2 for an 11-5 record), they would've surely won 1/3 of the remaining games and got the #2 seed.

Yep, I agree with you on the Tennessee coach. All the pressure is on Mariota and him only. It's amazing how things come full circle. In my first ever week following the NFL and posting about it, Miami were 1-3, sacked Philbin, and were playing Tennessee the next week. You told me you were worried, because Mariota was going to be a star. The following 6 quarters were fun (79-10 scoreline), but I'm asking you since you can actually watch the games, why isn't Mariota living up to his potential?


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Sanzano Posted: 08:27 Jun19 2019 Post ID: 3448147
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It's going to be interesting seeing how much Patrick Mahommes gets next year when his rookie contract expires. If the likes of Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson are getting ridiculous money for what they bring to the table what will Mahommes worth be? Rumour has it the contract will be in excess of 200 million.

Whatever it is I hope Kansas pay it, the last thing I want to see is Mahommes go to the Patriots and their dynasty lasting another 10 years.

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Warrior13 Posted: 09:26 Jun19 2019 Post ID: 3448148
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Matt: Mariota and Winston have had zero progression since being drafted. Not sure if that has to do with coaching or their own personal drive. Mariota is accurate like he always has been, but his arm (and body as a whole) has not gotten stronger. As for Winston, he still isn't accurate. They simply aren't getting better for some reason.

Dennis: I'm more interested if Mahomes has the same numbers this year. If he does, then yes, he'll get the largest contract ever, probably forty million a year and like all guaranteed. If not, I would hold off another year before paying him.

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Matt77 Posted: 18:45 Jun19 2019 Post ID: 3448149
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That's a shame. It probably points to this being the end of their Tennessee/Tampa Bay careers. At this level they're good enough to be career backups or even a starter for a few years, but Tennessee & Tampa Bay are in the perfect position to restart at QB with the 2020 draft coming up next.

This time last season most people including myself thought KC would be an outside chance at playoffs and a mediocre team. There was no pressure or expectations on them/him, and now they will be expected to produce 12-4 and 4,000 yards respectively, at a minimum. A full season without Kareem Hunt to support him and possibly no Tyreek Hill as a downfield target will make it tough. I wouldn't be surprised to see the offense drop off because they are spending so much energy improving the defense. And like I said before, KC are no certainties for playoffs, let alone the division title.

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Sanzano Posted: 01:44 Jun20 2019 Post ID: 3448150
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I totally forgot about that, still trying to get my head around Cleveland now having Kareem Hunt. I think you're right, Mahommes will not put up the same numbers this year, the backfield threat in Kansas is no longer there. Looks like it's going to be Cleveland with Baker Mayfield putting up the big numbers this year. I cannot for the life of me see how Cleveland cannot reach the playoffs this year with the talent they have at their disposal. Kareem Hunt and Odell Beckham Jnr, who do you double team? I bet Cleveland fans can't wait for the season to start...

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Warrior13 Posted: 21:04 Jun24 2019 Post ID: 3448155
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Hill has an interview with the NFL on Wednesday. I heard no case will be brought against him legally. I'm sure he'll get to play this year, probably a six game suspension. Mahomes will be happy.
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Matt77 Posted: 00:03 Jun25 2019 Post ID: 3448166
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KC's schedule is:

@ Jacksonville - L
@ Oakland - W
vs Baltimore - W
@ Detroit - W
vs Indy - W
vs Houston - W
@ Denver - W
vs Green Bay - L
vs Minnesota - W
@ Tennessee - W
@ LA Chargers - L
vs Oakland - W
@ New England - L
vs Denver - W
@ Chicago - L
vs LA Chargers - W

Looking at their entire schedule, they will have to match their 2018/19 form if they want to win the division. Anything less, and losses will pile up quickly. There is no good time for Hill to take the 6 games, but the first 6 games are the best games for him to miss (even though these 6 aren't easy at all). If KC are smart, they will delay and delay so that Hill misses weeks 2-7 (wk 7 is @ Denver) but not @ Jacksonville.


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Warrior13 Posted: 15:26 Jun25 2019 Post ID: 3448169
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With or without Hill, I see them going 12-4 or 13-3. Easily.
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Matt77 Posted: 02:44 Jun26 2019 Post ID: 3448177
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I'm not sold. Many predictions don't pan out. For all we know, these will be the playoff positions:

1 - Jacksonville
2 - Cincy
3 - New England
4 - Denver
5 - Pittsburgh
6 - LA Chargers

1 - Atlanta
2 - Seattle
3 - NY Giants
4 - Detroit
5 - Minnesota
6 - Washington

It will be interesting to see which teams surprise and which teams flop this season. Make no mistake, there will be several teams that do so.

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Sanzano Posted: 10:03 Jun26 2019 Post ID: 3448180
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One of which will be Washington, I get the feeling they will either suddenly become a power in the NFC or Haskins will be another Robert Griffen III. On paper though the team looks like a dynasty in the making but then the same can probably be said for twenty other teams out there which I don't follow closely.

I'll be rooting for Rosen this year, I'd love to see Miami topple New England and become the AFC power, I've always liked their turquoise and orange jerseys from the days of Dan Marino. Why is everyone rating Jacksonville so highly, that team doesn't instantly spring to mind when I think of Super Bowl contenders. Leonard Fournette is about all I know of that team and he's not as good as Saquon Barkley.

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Warrior13 Posted: 20:06 Jun26 2019 Post ID: 3448183
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I think Washington is a year or two away.
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Matt77 Posted: 22:17 Jun26 2019 Post ID: 3448189
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Washington's only chance at immediate success is if the other NFC East teams flop. But there's enough talent in the other 3 teams to say that one of them should do well. It's a division that will be highly contested every season for the next decade (Wentz & Dak are in their 3rd years, & Haskins & Jones are rookies).

They're rating Jacksonville because of what they did in the past (leading 20-10 at 3QT @ New England in the AFC Championship game). Similar to how Warrior has rated Atlanta highly for a few years. On paper Jacksonville have an elite defense and an elite RB, but in reality Jalen Ramsey is a locker room cancer who is a good chance to one day leave Jacksonville, and Fournette has fallen off a cliff. They also assume Foles can be a competent starting QB, but his history away from Philly has been terrible.

Nothing against Kyler Murray, but I hope that he is a bust so that Arizona look like idiots for throwing away Rosen. Murray better spend hours of time practicing avoiding the past rushers in practice, because he's going to need to be good at it while behind the woeful Arizona o-line (remember, Arizona drafted ZERO o-line players in the 1st-4th rounds).


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Sanzano Posted: 01:40 Jun27 2019 Post ID: 3448190
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Lol, theat's aother reason why I want to see Miami do well, to make Arizona look like fools. I don't like the Cardinals, for years they were in the NFC East along with Philadelphia, New York Giants, Dallas, and Washington and each year they were a pain in the ****. Back then though they were known as the St. Louis Cardinals and they had decent players like Niel Lomax, Roy Green, and Ottis 'O.J.' Anderson.

I don't see Jacksonville doing so well again this year, I like yourself don't rate Foles with another team, his past stats are an indictment that testifies this. If anyone has a breakout season it will be Cleveland, that team is ready to explode. All the pieces are in place they just need to get all the players on the same page of the manual.

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Matt77 Posted: 02:22 Jun27 2019 Post ID: 3448191
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Yeah, I remember seeing that in the past some divisions had 5 teams. I wonder if they'll change the divisions again one day.

Cleveland are primed for a breakout season, but do not be surprised if they have an awful year. So often in sports a young team is predicted to do well, but they flop and can't handle the pressure. It's happened to a young team this year in each of the Australian sports I follow, so I'd expect it to happen in the NFL as well. They still have to compete against Pittsburgh and Baltimore, and Cincy with a new coach for the first time in 16 years are a wildcard.

This is how I think each division will pan out, and which teams could/should win it:

AFC East:
I think New England will win it - No explanation needed.
Don't be surprised if New England win it - Just expect it. They will only lose it when we don't expect them to lose it.

AFC North:
I think Cleveland will win it - They're the most talented team on paper in the entire AFC.
Don't be surprised if Pittsburgh win it - Big Ben is still an above average QB, and even though they have lost Brown and Bell, one was a locker room cancer and the other was a greedy baby, and they replace them with Juju and Connor.

AFC South:
I think Indy will win it - They ended their season 10-2 in the last 12 games including playoffs (1 playoff win). There's no reason why they shouldn't at least repeat a 10-6 record.
Don't be surprised if Jacksonville win it - Things could go very bad for them, but they could also go very well. If things click and the running game is revived, the defense gets back to its best, and Foles can be a C+ quarterback, they will be tough to beat.

AFC West:
I think LA Chargers will win it - Toss up between LAC and KC here. But I feel Rivers has more experience and he has Gordon as a strong RB to support him.
Don't be surprised if Denver win it - Personally I think they will bust, but if things go right there's a lot of upside for Denver. The defense needs to step up.

NFC East:
I think Philly will win it - If Wentz stays healthy this is a no-brainer. They traded well and if the team can learn to play well with Wentz in the team rather than Foles, they may even get close to a 1st week bye.
Don't be surprised if Dallas win it - They won a shootload of one-score games last season, so they'll have to improve if they want the division. But you can never underestimate 'America's Team' and Jerry Jones...

NFC North:
I think Green Bay will win it - Rodgers gets to start fresh with no injuries and a new coach. If he stays fully healthy they will earn a 1st week bye.
Don't be surprised if Minnesota win it - This is a big year for Kirk Cousins. If they don't make playoffs then he will never be able to get rid of his mediocre reputation. He may well step up, and if he does, Minnesota aren't a bad team at all.

NFC South:
I think New Orleans will win it - They look too solid a team not to make playoffs at a minimum. As long as they do what they've done for the past 2 seasons, they'll win a 3rd consecutive division title.
Don't be surprised if Atlanta win it - Early in last season Atlanta looked very good and got their record back to 4-4, but injuries and unforgivable close losses killed any momentum they had. If they can get back to their best and split the games with New Orleans, they're in for a chance.

NFC West:
I think Seattle will win it - Toss up with LAR and SEA, but I went with Seattle to be a bit bold. Seattle started slowly but then got very good, and has they not lost 3 close divisional games, they may've won the division. Goff looked average in the 2nd half of last season, and Gurley's arthritic knee looks bad.
Don't be surprised if San Francisco win it - If Garoppolo can find some form (or even match Mullens' form), they will have Jerrick McKinnon back from a torn ACL, an elite TE, and some underrated WRs. If the defense can improve then they'll be competitive.

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Sanzano Posted: 04:51 Jun27 2019 Post ID: 3448192
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AFC East
New England Patriots, yawn, can't bet against them.

AFC North
Pittsburgh, you can't beat experience and Rothesburger and the Steelers have the edge even though they've lost key personnel.

AFC South
Andrew Luck and Indianapolis are heading in the right direction, I don't think Foles is the answer at Jacksonville.

AFC West
Kansas City although LA Chargers will run them close. Mahommes is the man at the moment, after last season he will be full of confidence. The loss of key personnel during the off-season could be a problem though, if it is San Diego take it.

NFC East
If Wentz stays healthy this is Philadelphia's division to lose. Dallas could run them close if Eliott, Prescott and Cooper have a good year.

NFC North
I'm beginning to think Aaron Rogers isn't as good as everyone says he is, what has he done recently? Chicago's defense wins this division.

NFC South
Atlanta regain their form of a couple of years ago and win this division after being run close be Drew Brees and the Saints.

NFC West
LA Rams win this division but do nothing when they reach the divisional playoffs.

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Warrior13 Posted: 08:58 Jun27 2019 Post ID: 3448193
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AFC East:
1) Patriots
2) Jets

AFC North:
1) Steelers
2) Browns

AFC South:
1) Colts
2) Jaguars

AFC West:
1) Chiefs
2) Chargers

NFC East:
1) Cowboys
2) Eagles

NFC North:
1) Bears
2) Packers

NFC South:
1) Falcons
2) Saints

NFC West:
1) Rams
2) Seahawks
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Sanzano Posted: 10:03 Jun27 2019 Post ID: 3448194
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Pretty much the same as me Warrior13, my second choices are the same as yours as well. Cowboys if Elliot is healthy and Cooper has a big year will take the NFC East, Philadelphia were relying on luck quite a bit last year, they weren't the team of the previous year when they went to the Super Bowl. I'm not sure Wentz is as good as everyone says he is.

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Matt77 Posted: 22:44 Jun27 2019 Post ID: 3448195
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These are the teams I think will finish top 2 in their divisions:

AFC East:
1) New England
2) NY Jets

AFC North:
1) Cleveland
2) Pittsburgh

AFC South:
1) Indy
2) Houston

AFC West:
1) LA Chargers
2) Kansas City

NFC East:
1) Philly
2) Dallas

NFC North:
1) Green Bay
2) Chicago

NFC South:
1) New Orleans
2) Atlanta

NFC West:
1) Seattle
2) LA Rams


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Matt77 Posted: 22:50 Jun27 2019 Post ID: 3448196
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All up, this is how we think the divisions will go:

AFC East:
Winner - New England (3)
Runner up - NY Jets (3)

AFC North:
Winner - Pittsburgh (2), Cleveland (1)
Runner up - Cleveland (2), Pittsburgh (1)

AFC South:
Winner - Indy (3)
Runner up - Jacksonville (2), Houston (1)

AFC West:
Winner - Kansas City (2), LA Chargers (1)
Runner up - LA Chargers (2), Kansas City (1)

NFC East:
Winner - Philly (2), Dallas (1)
Runner up - Dallas (2), Philly (1)

NFC North:
Winner - Chicago (2), Green Bay (1)
Runner up - Green Bay (2), Chicago (1)

NFC South:
Winner - Atlanta (2), New Orleans (1)
Runner up - New Orleans (2), Atlanta (1)

NFC West:
Winner - LA Rams (2), Seattle (1)
Runner up - Seattle (2), LA Rams (1)


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