NFL - Discussion Thread

He'd have to fail with the Jags and make his way back to Philly to do that (unless Brady goes to the NFC -- not happening).

To be honest, I think it's a big possibility that Foles goes back home. Much like Case Keenum, he is a player who is above average in one team's system, and below average to poor in all other systems.

I still want to see him be successful with the Jags. I want him to prove that he can do so away from Philly.

I do too, but I don't think he can do it. As soon as Keenum was traded to Denver I knew he wouldn't do well. And as soon as Foles was traded to Jacksonville, I knew he wouldn't be able to match the level he played to at Philly.

Plus Minshew Mania is alive and kicking

Does Brady really want to go to a new team and learn a new system at 43? The more I think about it the more unrealistic it is. With the money and fame he has picked up over the last twenty years I can't see it happening, what's his motivation? He's already streets ahead of the next best quarterback ever to play the game. All he'll be doing by hanging on with deroding skills and tarnishing his legacy.

Bill Belichick has stated if Brady stays, he goes. It will be interesting to see what happens in New England. Do they draft quarterback or tight end? They need new blood in both positions. Does Belichick do a deal with the Lions they can't refuse and get Tua Tagovailoa? I can't see the Lions drafting a cornerback if another team like New England or Carolina who need a new quarterback put a decent deal on the table. There's even talk of Miami trading with Detroit with their two first round picks to ensure that doesn't happen. This draft is more interesting than the Super Bowl.

What?!?! Do you have a link to what Belichick said? That sounds insane that Belichick would be so stubborn not to work with Brady again.

Like you say Brady would have to learn a new system at a new club. As far as I can tell, these are the only teams that would be a possibility for him:
- LA Chargers
- Tampa Bay
- Chicago

I will be fuming if Miami give up ANY of their 1st round picks to move up, let alone two of them. Thy need to stay solid at pick 5, and if a team trades up for Tua/Herbert, then Miami can draft an o-lineman.

Matt, it's all over the internet. In not so many words Belichick has made it crystal clear that if Brady returns to the Patriots in any form including as a free agent next season he is off. The problem is Brady may go above Belichicks head like he did when Garapollo threatened his job and go directly to Kraft who loves Brady and has publicly said he wants to keep the player. In previous years Brady took a pay cut so there was more money available in the cap for other players. Now Brady wants to be among or the highest-paid on the team and he doesn?t want to be underpaid. This forces Belichick to give a bigger cap percentage to a player who needs more around him, not less around him. Which is why there is a ton of speculation at the moment that Belichick will look at the Patriots and go, 'What can I do?' and move on. The New York Giants and Dallas Cowboys have been mentioned as landing spots. I personally think if he leaves the game he will just be an analyst on one of the major networks shows. At his age he doesn't need the stress of going to a new club.

He can't go to NY Giants or Dallas, unless those teams sack their coach within 3 weeks of hiring them. Belichick will either continue with NE, or retire from coaching.

Yep. For both Brady & Belichick imo, it is NE or retirement.

I really hate the way there's a 2 week break between the championship games and the Superbowl. I understand it's to build suspense and allow injured players to come back, but I've lost all interest in the Superbowl now. All I'm thinking about if the draft and our mocks. I was pumped after Kansas City and San Francisco won, but now it's all deflating.

I'm tipping Kansas City to win 31-24. Not that I care too much anymore.....

I got KC 28-24

I'm with San Francisco, I've been burned too many times over the years with the hype surrounding an offense and on the big day it just doesn't turn up. Defense wins championships and I see this being a similar game to the 1985 Super Bowl between Miami and San Francisco, instead of Marino who was on fire in 1984 we've got Mahommes. I go 49rs 34-28.

I'm with you Matt about the Super Bowl, I'm in suspense waiting for the draft. I can't rest until I know the Redskins have Chase Young in their ranks.

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When you're a DolFan, you really only have the draft after the regular season to look forward to. XD

Same if you're a Washington fan except you start looking towards the draft after about week 3 of the regular season when you realise the year is a lost cause.

I had another look at the Playoffs leaderboard, and given the scorelines that we have all predicted, there are some interesting outcomes that may occur. Because of the margins we all predicted, I think the positions will simply change if a certain team wins.

If Kansas City win:
- I will win the competition due to Dennis not gaining a point
- Warrior will leapfrog Dennis based on him achieving a better margin
- Dennis will finish 3rd

If San Francisco win:
- Dennis will win the competition and leapfrog me based on him achieving a better margin
- I will finish 2nd
- Warrior will finish 3rd

Yeah, I picked up on that yesterday when I saw you and Warrior13 going with Kansas. Although they are slight underdogs I am going to go with the 49rs, I like their defense and run game which should rip the terrible 28th place Kansas run defense apart and allow Garapollo to do damage through the air. Either way I'm expecting a high scoring close game. If Mahomes can't pass against the 49rd defense it's over, the 49r ground attack will control the game and eat up the clock.

Kansas City Offense:
Points per game - 28.2 (5th)
Yards per game - 379.2 (6th)
Passing - 281.1 (5th)
Rushing - 98.1 (23rd)
3rd down conversion - 48% (1st)

Kansas City Defense:
Points per game - 19.2 (7th)
Yards per game - 349.6 (17th)
Passing - 221.4 (8th)
Rushing - 128.2 (26th)
3rd down conversion - 37% (12th)

Kansas City Special Teams & Other Stats:
Field goals attempted/made - 34/38 for 90% (6th)
Turnover differential of +8 (7th)

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San Francisco Offense:
Points per game - 29.9 (2nd)
Yards per game - 381.1 (4th)
Passing - 237.0 (13th)
Rushing - 144.1 (2nd)
3rd down conversion - 45% (5th)

San Francisco Defense:
Points per game - 19.4 (8th)
Yards per game - 281.8 (2nd)
Passing - 169.2 (1st)
Rushing - 112.6 (17th)
3rd down conversion - 33% (2nd)

San Francisco Special Teams & Other Stats:
Field goals attempted/made - 30/39 for 77% (23rd)
Turnover differential of +4 (10th)

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In general I was surprised to find San Francisco dominant in the offense/defense stats. Kansas City have a pretty average rushing offense and defense. However, Kansas City dominated the special category. They have a better turnover differential, and lead in FG conversion (90%). San Francisco's is a terrible 77%. That could haunt them on the big day.

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I just want the Chiefs more at this point. Fifty years is a long drought.

Me too. And I used to think KC were the slight favourites. But the stats point to a SF victory.

You just gotta believe. XD XD XD