NFL - Discussion Thread

I'd be a bit weary of selecting Devonta Smith, guy has the talent but he is so small. 170 pounds (79kg) is 30 pounds less than I weigh, I can't see how the guy can survive the big hits of the NFL. If I was Miami I'd want Pitts first followed by Chase although Sewell would be the sensible pick over Chase seeing as the Dolphins already have two decent recievers.

High bust potentially, and a relative high amount of good pass rushers in the nfl vs quality offensive lineman maybe? I feel like it is easier these days to draft a pass rusher and have him have an immediate impact than it is to draft a star offensive lineman.

Jets have traded Darnold for a 6th round pick this year, and a 2nd and 4th round pick in next year's draft to the Panthers. A nice haul for him, and ensures that the Jets will be taking a QB and the Panthers won't.

A slight overpay for him as is, but a bargain if he can turn into a solid starter.

Incredible trade for the Panthers if he pans out. If not, no big deal as not much was given for him. Plus they keep #8, allowing them to fall back or take a top talent.

That's a trade that suits everyone. Also as Warrior pointed out in the other thread, Carolina will possible take a WR, so it's good that we are ahead. However, it stops any talk of us trading down.

Dennis - Miami have TE Mike Gesicki, who is an underrated player and has developed nicely over the past 2 seasons. If Chase is available, we have to take him.

Miami could still trade down, but a few things will need to happen first. Obviously, the Falcons would have to stay put and not draft QB4. If this happens, they will likely select Pitts or Sewell, followed by the Bengals selecting whichever of the two the Falcons didn't.

From there, Miami could trade back to #9 with the Broncos, but since there isn't that pressing of a need to jump (unless the Broncos fear the Lions might draft QB4, or that another team will trade with Miami instead and leapfrog them) we will have to take less in return while accepting the fact we will likely walk away with WR3 (assuming the Lions take Chase and the Panthers take Smith/Waddle).

That, or the Dolphins could fall way down to #17 (Raiders), #19 (Redskins), or #20 (Bears). They would obviously get way more compensation for both this draft and future drafts (probably a 2nd or 3rd this year and two future 1sts), but that would see them having to accept a great player rather than an elite player.

I think we need to go for it. We bit the bullet and took our franchise QB, and need to try with a franchise WR. Bringing in Chase to complement Fuller, and already having Parker and others, makes a decent WR group.

I am fine with Chase, Pitts or Sewell. Chase gives us a true WR1, while Parker can play opposite and Fuller over the middle with Gesecki. Pitts and Gesecki would be very scary for opposing teams if Tua plays up to his potential. Sewell basically completes the OL Rebuild, and the Phins could draft a WR in the 2nd since it is a deep class.

But I am not opposed to dropping down to #9 and accepting Smith or Waddle. Each of the Top 3 WRs has their good points: Chase is overall, Smith is smooth and can do it all, Waddle is the most dynamic.

Falling to #17-20 is a little scary, but you might get lucky for a guy that falls. No one had Lamb falling to #17 last year. Could work out while getting loads of picks. I am open for it if the price is right. Deep WR Class, Deep OT Class, Somewhat Deep DE/DT Class.

This happened to Derius Guice of the Redskins about three years ago at a scouting combine just before the draft. One of the scouts asked him if he liked men. A big became headline news and Guice went from being a top ten drafted player alongside Barkley of the Giants to a second round pick. Apparently the scouts ask these weird questions to see how the player handles pressure situations.

Was it Guice that got released because of domestic violence incidents, or something bad along those lines? Regardless, those scouts ended up being justified for lowering Guice's draft value.

He also had injury history, which severely dropped his stock. Now he's out of the league and in legal trouble.

Yes, that's the guy. Guice strangled his girlfriend until she lost consciousness. It's a shame because the guy was a beast at running back. He had the chance to be a star if he hadn't got injured and the incident with his girlfriend didn't occur.

Obviously a head case. Doesn't matter how much talent you have.

Similar rumblings about Micah Parsons:

Per Brugler's draft guide: Micah Parsons was suspended from HS his junior year by inciting a riot after he allegedly yelled "gun" in school's cafeteria. Afterwards he transferred and claimed it was because his mom moved out of district.

And:

He alleges in the complaint that Barber, Parsons, Gross-Matos and did the following to him and certain other players:

Took their clothes and did not return them. Told them they intended to make them ?their ***** because this is a prison.? Wrestled them down and simulating a humping action while on top of them. Placed their penis in their faces while simulating ejaculation. Placed their penis on and in their buttocks. Humphries claims he was referred to as ?this is Jerry? in reference to former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky who was convicted of child sex abuse.

BTW, I'm subscribed to the Athletic and have a copy of the referenced Draft Guide, it's a gigantic PDF with nice profiles on any prospect we'd be considering putting in our mocks, around 500. I'm not really allowed to link the whole thing but I can post excerpts of individual players if you guys are interested.

Very strange and somewhat concerning. A lot of character stuff can be excused or ironed out in the pros but stuff like this can definitely make a player's stock fall.

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I read an article today that some teams actually like Jamin Davis more than Parsons, with a few GMs and Head of Player Personnels thinking Davis could go Top 20 and ahead of Parsons.

Davis doesn't have character concerns, is said to be a much better tackler than Parsons, and he put up Pro Day numbers better than him as well (4.37u forty, 42 vertical, 11 broad).

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I heard about the Mica Parsons character concerns a little while back, I'd avoid drafting him personally unless he was available late in the second round. I'd rather have a player not quite so good but with no character concerns. Last thing you want to do is draft a locker room cancer.

Parsons will likely go Top 12, at worst Top 20. Concerns yes, but too much talent.

I still have him going to Philly assuming the 4 top WR/TEs are taken

I have him going to Philly as well in my Final Mock Draft at the moment.

Yes Philly sounds about right, I hope he's a bust though as the Eagles are in the same division as Washington. Although if a top wide reciever is available I can see the Eagles going that route.