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Sanzano Posted: 04:13 Apr25 2021 Post ID: 3454037
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I personally think the Dolphins will take the best available offensive playmaker with pick 6 that is available. The Dolphins need to know if Tua is the real deal so they need to give him some decent weapons to find out. If Tua is for real, and the Dolphins pick up either Chase, Pitts, or even Smith they will be going deep into the playoffs. The Dolphins don't need more picks, they just need one big playmaker on offense and two or three other decent players and they are good to go.

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Warrior13 Posted: 11:00 Apr25 2021 Post ID: 3454038
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Dolphins have had trade discussions with the Broncos. If the Falcons go Pitts and the Bengals go Sewell/Chase, I'm pretty confident the Broncos will trade up to #6. Rumors are surfacing that the Panthers might select Fields or Lance if they make it to #8, basically forcing the Broncos to jump if they want either of those guys. Miami would still be able to get Waddle or Smith at #9, or even trade back again with a team wanting Mac Jones.
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steelersrock01 Posted: 13:47 Apr25 2021 Post ID: 3454040
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My final mock as of today April 25th:

#1 Jax - QB Lawrence
#2 NYJ - QB Wilson
#3 SF - QB Lance
#4 ATL - QB Fields
#5 CIN - OL Sewell
#6 MIA - TE Pitts
#7 DET - WR Chase
#8 CAR - WR Waddle
#9 DEN - LB Parsons
#10 DAL - CB Surtain
#11 NYG - OL Slater
#12 PHI - WR Devonta Smith
#13 LAC - OL Darrisaw
#14 MIN - OL Vera-Tucker
#15 NE - QB Mac Jones
#16 ARI - CB Horn
#17 LV - LB Owusu-Koramoah
#18 MIA - LB Jamin Davis
#19 WFT - CB Farley
#20 CHI - OL Leatherwood
#21 IND - Edge Paye
#22 TEN - Edge Phillips
#23 NYJ - Edge Oweh
#24 PIT - RB Harris
#25 JAX - S Mohrig
#26 CLE - DL Barmore
#27 BAL - OL Jenkins
#28 NO - WR Bateman
#29 GB - CB Newsome
#30 BUF - Edge Ojulari
#31 BAL - WR Marshall II
#32 TB - RB Etienne

Pretty safe mock for my final one. Really it's that SF #3 pick that could drastically mess up everyone's mock. Also unsure that Jones will fall all the way to NE at 15, and that the Titans will take an edge rusher over one of the offensive lineman. I also think that some of these lineman and pass rushers in the bottom 12 picks are pretty interchangeable, as are the second tier receivers and corners. The toughest pick was maybe TB of all things, I'm not exactly sure Etienne will fall that far, nor am I certain Harris will drop to the Steelers.

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Warrior13 Posted: 13:57 Apr25 2021 Post ID: 3454041
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Not a bad Final Mock. You can still change up things, if you want, until the Draft. ;)

If Pats trade up for Jones, you will still get a point. Just need to have correct pick number or correct team. I think they will have to trade up if they want to get him or any QB.

If I might give some advice... I'm hearing the Titans, Jets, and Steelers are all heavily interested in Jenkins. Also, maybe Rousseau instead of Ojulari as I've heard he's dropping a smidge.

That's about it though. Bucs are tough since they don't really have a huge need. I've seen some even put Mills/Trask to the Bucs just because of the 5th Year Option.

Yeah, 49ers will make or break everyone's draft.
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steelersrock01 Posted: 16:01 Apr25 2021 Post ID: 3454042
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Whoops, just noticed I posted it here instead of the Draft thread. I'll post it there too.

Thanks for the tips. I admittedly haven't been following draft coverage super closely besides the big name guys.
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Warrior13 Posted: 17:34 Apr25 2021 Post ID: 3454044
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I try to keep an eye on certain teams. Some do not leak anything, which certainly makes it hard. It tends to be a crapshoot after the Top 15 anyway, but that sometimes has to do with a domino effect from one team making a random pick. 49ers and Falcons will make or break everything.
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Matt77 Posted: 10:09 Apr26 2021 Post ID: 3454047
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Atlanta have received several trade calls for Julio Jones. Atlanta aren't going to be able to contend for at least a few years, so imo they should let him go (if they get a good pick in exchange). Losing Jones for a pick (likely a 2nd rounder, chance at being a 1st) and replacing him with Pitts wouldn't be a major loss at all.

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Warrior13 Posted: 10:17 Apr26 2021 Post ID: 3454048
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I would want a 1st Rounder if I was the Falcons. Otherwise, I would roll with Ryan, Ridley, Jones, and Pitts. They could easily be second in their division after Brees retired with a lineup like that.

Sounding more and more like Lance will be the pick at #3. If it will be anyone else, that person is Jones. Rumors say Shanahan wants Jones, but the rest of the Organization wants Lance. For the Dolphins sake, I hope it's Jones so we can trade down and get loads of picks. Washington is said to really want Lance.

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Matt77 Posted: 11:19 Apr26 2021 Post ID: 3454049
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Atlanta may (should, on potential) be able to make playoffs with that offense, but it's very difficult to win the SB from the wildcard places. If they are able to get a 1st rounder or early 2nd rounder, focusing on the future is the way to go. They would have picks 4, 36, and another pick in the 20-40 range.

When I eventually do my mock, I'll probably have Lance going #3 now. Everything's pointing to Lance 60/40, and when in doubt go with logic. But even so, trading up to pick 3 to get Lance is probably a reach as well. Who knows why they couldn't work out a way to trade with Philly and move up to pick 6 instead.

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Warrior13 Posted: 12:53 Apr26 2021 Post ID: 3454051
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The Niners are in their own heads. They feared someone would find a way to jump to #3 with the Phins, so they just went ahead and did so for themselves. I will laugh if they go with Jones.
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Warrior13 Posted: 19:21 Apr26 2021 Post ID: 3454053
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Uh-oh. The same reports that said Shanahan wants Jones while his staff wants Lance also reads that Shanahan might not care. Lynch has previously stated that Shanahan will have final call. Will Shanahan really put his ego above all of those scouting for him? Did the 49ers really give up the farm for a guy most thought was a fringe 1st/2nd Rounder?

What is wrong with Shanahan? Is his genius so great that it blocks the obvious? First horrible late-game play calling in not one but two Super Bowls, then giving Jimmy G 100 Million, and now selecting Jones over Fields and Lance? My brain hurts.

How sad is it to say that CJ Beathard could have the best arm out of all the QBs Shanahan has coached? Who would believe he would prefer the likes of Cousins, an aging Ryan, Hoyer, Jimmy G, Mullins, and (presumably) Jones over two kids (Fields and Lance, that is) with more talent than any of those guys?

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Matt77 Posted: 00:53 Apr27 2021 Post ID: 3454054
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To me the situation with Mac Jones is similar to what happened with Daniel Jones. He was arguably the 3rd or 4th best QB in the draft, and NY Giants picked him with the #6 pick. That pick has not paid off at all, and Jones is on the verge of being a bust. It is almost the equivalent of if LA Chargers picked Jordan Love with pick #6 last draft.

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steelersrock01 Posted: 09:48 Apr27 2021 Post ID: 3454055
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I'm so lost with all this drama lol. To me it feels like Fields is the clear #3 QB in this draft.
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Sanzano Posted: 10:00 Apr27 2021 Post ID: 3454056
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I'm hearing if Washington don't get Trey Lance and Mica Parsons is available he will be taken. If not the pick is the offensive tackle Alijah Vera-Tucker. This is getting exciting, I personally want the quarterback out of the three options.

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Warrior13 Posted: 11:14 Apr27 2021 Post ID: 3454058
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49ers are trying to trade Jimmy G. Sounds like they could get as high as a 2nd.

Looks like I'm switching to Mac Jones. Lance only makes sense if they would sit him for a year. Horrible move for the 49ers, but could be great for Redskins if they want to go all in for Lance.
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steelersrock01 Posted: 16:28 Apr27 2021 Post ID: 3454060
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Huge amount of cap space to be saved by trading him, too. I'll be switching as well, I guess.

Not sure where that has Lance landing. Maybe to Denver baring a WFT trade up?
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Warrior13 Posted: 17:37 Apr27 2021 Post ID: 3454061
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It's so hard to figure things out when having Jones at #3. I want to keep Lance, but all signs are pointing to Jones. I didn't believe the Baker to Cleveland, and that blew up in my face. I guess Shanahan could decide to side with his scouters and go with Lance in the end, but I can't imagine this much nonsense if it isn't Jones. Like we all know Lawrence and Wilson are going #1 and #2, so I guess it's just as reasonable to believe all the rumors with Jones. I hope the Niners aren't that foolish, but Shanahan has all the power.

Mocking Jones #3 makes it difficult. Do you mock Lance to the Falcons in hopes that the rumors of them liking him are true or since it seems like a good trade destination for a team hoping to nab Lance? Do you have Lance slide to the Broncos and Fields to the Pats? Or viceversa? Or do you have the Broncos getting Fields and putting Lance to the Redskins or Bears in thinking one of the two will trade up to get him?

Last year was so easy to predict. This is crazy.
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steelersrock01 Posted: 21:53 Apr27 2021 Post ID: 3454062
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I saw a mock today that had Fields dropping all the way to the Bucs at 32. Insane.
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Warrior13 Posted: 21:59 Apr27 2021 Post ID: 3454063
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Never going to happen. lol
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Matt77 Posted: 03:09 Apr28 2021 Post ID: 3454064
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Mike - That was a clickbait mock for sure. Fields is the clear 3rd best QB, if not arguably the 2nd best. But for some reason everyone is tipping him to slide.

Warrior - Last night I had a think about it, and for SF to trade that far, surely they had to know which QB they wanted. Assuming they want Jones, they could've easily got him within the 10-20 range. That narrows it down to Lance and Fields. Lance needs time to develop, so it wouldn't make much sense trading Garoppolo and drafting Lance. That leaves the option that everyone seems to have neglected - Fields at #3. Some mocks still have Fields going at #4 to Atlanta. So, if that were the case, SF would want to jump ahead. And NY Jets said no to any trades.

Shanahan came out a few days ago and said "you don't want everyone knowing what you're going to do 4 days before the draft". Well, if that is the case, SF have played it perfectly, and fooled the majority of the NFL. It's a bit similar to how Miami tricked everyone into thinking we were interested in Herbert.

Dennis - Washington have traded to get Ereck Flowers back from Miami; a year after he left Washington to Miami. It cost a 7th round pick (nothing). That's a big win for Washington. You're basically getting a capable player for free.

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