NFL - Discussion Thread

You mean releasing him? That means they have to pay out whatever guaranteed money is left on his contract, which would probably be a disaster for their salary cap, and they also wouldn't be getting anything for him.

The proper solution is trading him if he is deadset on not playing. Green Bay rightfully is holding out for a major offer as they think he is worth however many first round picks. Other teams rightfully are probably lowballing them at this point, I'm not sure I've seen a verified trade offer Green Bay has actually declined. They probably think he will play for them eventually and not actually sit out the entire season.

This is a consequence of the increase in player power in the NFL and NBA. The NFL isn't quite on the level of the NBA, where it seems we've got to the point where players are signing a contract with the league instead of the team. The most prominent recent example is Damian Lillard, who recently signed a 4 year max contract extension with Portland before this past season and last week said that he is "undecided" on his future.

They need to just trade him. They will never get more than they could right now.

I'm sure the following teams would give up roughly the following:
Miami - Three 1sts
Giants - Two 1st, One 2nd, Two 3rds
Broncos - Three 1sts + Player
Raiders - Three/Four 1sts

Have they not learned from Houston? Obviously Rodgers wouldn't do anything so stupid as Watson did, but his value can only drop from here. Just trade him.

We're saying these teams would give these things up, but is there proof? Has Miami actually made an offer like that? It's hard to say what Rodgers' value really is. We just have rumors that he would like to go to Denver, LV, or SF. No idea what's actually going on in his head.

I hear Rodgers has just had his house cleaned in Green Bay, the Packers fans are excited because they think it means he is getting ready for the upcoming season and preparing where he is going to live. I however see it differently, to me it looks like he is cleaning the house so it is ready to sell. Who sells a dirty house?

Lmao, come on. These reporters are so desperate.

All four of those teams called, and roughly three 1sts is believed to be the minimum. The Packers could probably get more out of the Broncos and Raiders since they do not have a guy with the potential to get the job done. Carr is what he is, Lock is what he is. Tua and Jones, at least at this juncture, have potential.

If I were Gruden I would go all in at this point and get Aaron Rodgers. At least Gruden can then say he got Aaron Rodgers to Las Vegas and gave the team an elite quarterback. The Raiders are going nowhere with Carr, he's just a mid level guy like Cousins and Prescott who will never win a Super Bowl.

Since this speculation started I've always seen Rodgers as a Denver Bronco, for some reason I can picture him finishing his career as a Bronco. I don't think he will win another Super Bowl though. Mind you Brady and Manning did it so it is not beyond the realm of possibility. I just don't think Rodgers has the respect of his team mates like those two and that will be the difference.

I agree. If I were the Raiders, I would give up five 1sts (or three 1sts plus Carr) to get Rodgers as long as signs the two year extension. That would give the Raiders five years with Rodgers, giving up a 1st for every year of the contract. The goal would only be to win one before he retires, especially with Mahomes in division.

The longer this goes on, the more it hurts Denver and Green Bay. It means a higher price for Denver to have to pay and less time in training camp, and less time for Love to get ready for becoming a starter. Both clubs will be rushed.

I don't want to see Rodgers at Miami. It would be short term gain for long term pain. I also don't want to see Watson at Miami. It would mean losing huge draft capital, plus Xavien Howard. Then again, the rumours keep swirling that we will lose him. Is he a free agent?

I would not mind Rodgers, but only if we do not give up more than three 1sts AND we get at least one of those back for Tua. I doubt that would happen though.

Howard is not a free agent but apparently he is dissatisfied with his contract. He's signed for 2021 at 13.5M and then he's signed for the next 3 years at an average of 13M per year but the money is not guaranteed so the Dolphins could cut him after this season. Howard likely wants to renegotiate to get up into the 19-21M per year that would put him in the top 3 CB salaries and also definitely wants more guaranteed money.

The Julio syndrome. Basically no more guarantees left so he wants a new, bigger contract.

Yeah. Basically every top 15 player and up does something similar.

Also, news just broke that if a team has a covid outbreak among unvaccinated players and they can't reschedule the game during the season, the offending team will forfeit the game and be credited with a loss for playoff seeding. Huge news.

Also the forfeiting team is responsible for all financial losses, plus a forfeit effects playoff seeding but not draft order. So if Team A goes 3-13 with a forfeit, and team B goes 3-14, team A will draft AFTER team B because 3-13 is a better record than 3-14.

Full memo in a tweet here:
https://twitter.com/TomPeli...05335299

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I was so glad to hear the news. This same thing should've been in place last year, but the NFL was willing to give all teams a break by shuffling things around when a team got infected. There's three different vaccines now; they're are no excuses.

Yeah, this news should get some of the guys that were debating getting it on board now. I'm also hearing that team staff are calling fringe players and implying that them not getting the vaccine can hurt their chances at a roster spot.

Now I am not onboard with that. Do not force people to get by threatening their livelihood. Let them do the research, talk with their doctor, and then decide for themselves.

I'm iffy on it as well, though I agree with the rationale. Is a team really going to let the 53rd guy on the roster potentially have them forfeit games? When that guy is 100% replaceable with someone not carrying that risk.

Rumors are circulating that Xavian Howard will likely go to the Saints for a first round pick and a quality player. Don't know how true this is. Cleveland are also interested in doing some kind of trade.

I would love a first for him. He is really good, but the Phins are loaded in their secondary.