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If any QB goes to Cleveland their career will be destroyed, period. Cleveland have been doing this exact type of rebuild for over a decade now, and what success has it achieved? It's actually lead to the team regressing. Cleveland already tried to pick up AJ McCarron this season but missed the trade deadline lol. They also wanted Jimmy, but couldn't get him, and now he is a star in the making. Cleveland are utterly screwed.
Perhaps the trading picks theory of Warrior's is actually not a bad one. That way a team like Washington who are desperate for a new QB can trade up for one of those top 4 picks, while giving Cleveland several 2nd and 3rd round picks for o-line and WR.
The way I'd go then, is to trade the #1 pick away for those mid-range picks. Then with the #4 pick personally I'd draft a QB, but it's a tough one as they'd want Barkley too. If he's in such high demand he may get picked up in picks 1-3. But like I said they aren't desperate for a RB.
Another theory here is a bold prediction, but potentially realistic. Detroit have a putrid running game which puts immense pressure on Stafford to perform like a top 5 QB (which he achieves a lot of the time). But because of this he has to do too much. If Detroit had a quality RB they would be a Superbowl contender without a doubt. If they can't hit someone in free agency, they should think about trading up and selecting Barkley. A new coach and new running game would hold Detroit in good stead.
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A veteran player like Cousins would jump at the opportunity of a long term contract with any NFL team but a rookie who has the opportunity of becoming a big name in the NFL and earning additional millions in endorsements and advertisements knows it?s not going to happen in a fleapit town like Cleveland. Like Matt says it would cripple their career before it had begun. I wouldn?t be surprised to see a one of those guarterbacks refuse to play in Cleveland if they are selected, who wants to go to a 0-16 team whose offensive line offers you poor protection.
I can?t believe Washington didn?t do the deal for San Francisco?s number one pick this year for Cousins when they had the chance last year. Everybody knew Cousins was going to walk, now the Redskins have got to sell the farm to trade up and get a quarterback in the draft.
(Lol again when I come to post you're here too Dennis)
Unfortunately for the QB that does get drafted, they have no choice but to have their career ruined unless they pull an Eli Manning.
I have a strange feeling that Philly are going to beat Atlanta, as crazy as it sounds. It parallels with what happened last year in Aus's AFL competition when the team I support was coming up against a team that was 15-2 leading up to the elimination final after a 0-6 start. It was my team's home game like with Philly, and no-one including myself gave them any hope. The opposing team was red hot and had a ticket straight into the prelim final (equivalent of NFC Championship Game). Funny thing was that my team destroyed the red-hot Swans by over 50 points. While I do think Atlanta will comfortably win, there's a reason teams play games even if it seems lopsided. Outside of QB this is the same Philly team that won 13 games.
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Eli Manning is not the only player that has refused to play for the team that drafted them and in each case it has paid off. Even if Cleveland had the best players on the league in all positions you get the feeling they still wouldn?t win a Super Bowl.
I?m with you Matt, I think the Philadelphia vs Atlanta game will be closer than what people think. To me Philadelphia are more or less the same as Minnesota, a good defensive team playing with a back-up quarterback. Philadelphia didn?t put together that impressive 13-3 regular season just because Wentz played good. Las Vegas oddsmakers have made Atlanta 3 point favourites making this the first time in NFL history a number 1 seed is the betting underdog against a number 6 seed. I?m wondering if this embarrassing disrespect will motivate the Eagles to pull out the win, they?ve still got their running game which sliced through the Falcons in 2016 when the two teams played in October, and that was against a Falcon team that went to the Super Bowl.
Well well, the miracle occurred. I love a bold prediction (or suggestion) that works out! Atlanta choked a 10-6 near-HT lead into a 10-15 loss. What a surprise lol. They were very close to winning it at the end, but a few inches went against them. It's fair since a few inches helped them into playoffs against Detroit early in the season.
Nick Foles played a pretty solid game, with a 0:0 ratio (should've been 0:1 but an Atlanta player dropped it and lead to a 20-yard Philly gain) but the problem will be next week when he probably has a bad one. New Orleans or Minnesota should crush Philly.
New England winning 21-7 at HT after trailing 0-7 at QT. Frustrating for Tennessee to lose their lead, but the important thing is that they scored some points and kept the game close-ish. They also got some luck, with NE missing a 53-yard FG at the end of the half. Tennessee just need to channel last week and overcome a 14-point deficit to match the 18-point one they overcame last week. They really haven't done much wrong (no team has turned the ball over).
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Love it, Philadelphia stepped up and pulled it off despite all the experts writing them off as one and done because Wentz was injured. If you?e an Eagles fan you will be hoping New Orleans beats Minnesota tonight because they have no chance against the Vikings next week if they don?t. Philadelphia just doesn?t match up well against Minnesota. I had a feeling Foles was being underestimated, up until the Eagles drafted Wentz he was the starting quarterback and had been to the pro bowl so wasn?t an unproven back-up like Case Keenum. Foles played well but it was the Eagles running backs like I predicted that did the damage. The key to the game was philadelphia?s defense keeping it a low scoring game, Atlanta is 0-7 this season when they score les than 14 points.
I heard it was 0-7 when less than 17, so even worse.
The way I see it Minnesota are Philly, but better. Backup QB that is going better and defense that is better. New Orleans doesn't look good for Philly. However, it will be a Philly home championship game, and they easily accounted for Atlanta despite the score being close. Take away an awful fumble and an awful muffed punt recovery by Philly, and that's 10/10 of Atlanta's points gone. Have Atlanta make the INT and not drop it, and it's likely 3/15 Philly points gone and a sole 3 points for Atlanta. The final score would've been 12-3 Philly.
You say Philly's running game did damage, but they made a grand total of 96 yards for the entire game. That's pretty average. What it does mean is that if they actually have a dominant performance, it serves Philly even better.
New England crushing Tennessee 35-7. TEN just as I type this got a garbage time TD to make it 35-14. Tennessee haven't even turned the ball over once, yet are being murdered. I pity the winner of JAX @ PIT.
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Matt, it?s not the total amount of yardage you have to look at but the yardage gained in key situations that is important. You are right it?s 0-7 when Atlanta score less than 17. I?m looking forward to tonight?s game even more now, are we going to see two upsets in this stage of the playoffs? I still think the Saints are going to win, I don?t think the Vikings defense although good is not good enough to keep a lid on Brees who will confirm his Hall of Fame credentials with a dominant display. I think the key to this game is how the Vikings deal with Kamara. If the Saints start putting points on the scoreboard the Vikings won?t be able to keep up.
Tennessee's season wasn't bad at all. Shook off some awful form to contend with and/or beat some good teams. Also made the playoffs for the first time since 2008 and won there for the first time since 2003. Even though they got carved up, their game against NE wasn't even that bad (0 turnovers, away from home, against the best team in the league). And they did all this with an out of form Marcus Mariota.
Atlanta's woeful record when they don't score is concerning. The simple formula teams will implement now is to just play a defensive style game and don't have a shootout. Their losses have been: 17-23 loss to Buffalo (home) (playoff team) 17-20 loss to Miami (home) 7-23 loss to New England (playoff team) 17-20 loss to Carolina (playoff team) 9-14 loss to Minnesota (home) (playoff team) 13-23 loss to New Orleans (playoff team) 10-15 loss to Philly (playoff team) EVERY SINGLE loss this season has resulted in 17 points or less scored. I didn't realise the 0-7 stat was for only this season, I thought it was over the past few. When Atlanta score over 17 they are 11-0!
I agree, if New Orleans get a lead of 14 or more it's curtains, whereas if Minnesota get that sort of lead the game is still alive. The way I see it it's 55/45 in favour of MIN. NO could easily win, much like what I thought of ATL @ LAR.
If New Orleans are going to win it's going to be up to Brees. The NO running game has been in pretty average form recently, and I doubt it's going to improve against Minnesota in Minnesota. Brees has crushed the best all-time completion percentage this season. I can't remember exactly what it is but it's around 71%. Yes he's thrown less passes, but in recent weeks when the running game has been stuffed Brees has had to throw more, and the completion percentage hasn't dropped drastically. Remember the heartbreaking end to the WAS @ NO game? Drew Brees is the MVP of his team.
You say Minnesota need to stop Kamara, but I say they need to stop Brees. They would desperately love a pick or 2, and as we saw when they played at Atlanta, Brees can still make bonehead decisions like all QBs (threw an endzone INT instead of waiting and kicking a FG to tie the game).
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If Minnesota can figure out how to stop Kamara out of the backfield and take away Brees short option pass and force him to throw against Minnesota?s secondary that has those two pro bowlers the Saints are going to struggle.
It will be interesting to see what happens in the fourth quarter if the Saints are down and have to go for it. This happened as you well know against Washington and New Orleans looked lethal the way they turned the game around.
The Vikings weakness is their interior linemen (left guard in particular), are New Orleans strong enough to take advantage when they run inside? If they are and can pick up the short yardage on third downs they should be able to win the game.
I just remembered the other weakness Minnesota have, and it has haunted them in the past. Average kicker. While their guy isn't bad, NO's kicked Will Lutz is definitely better. He made a 57-yard FG that in the end proved to be the difference (without it when Carolina were deep in NO territory they would've been trailing by 2 and could've kicked a game-winning FG). 2 seasons ago Blair Walsh missed a simple FG to give Seattle the win. The Minnesota kicker Kai Forbath has been missing quite a few recently. With a cursed team like Minnesota it wouldn't be surprising to see a missed FG be the difference.
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I hear what you?re saying Matt. 1998 Minnesota Vikings, 15-1, Gary Anderson field goal attempt wide right.It would be cruel if the Vikings go down again to a field goal. That 1998 team was way better than this 2017 Vikings team. Gary Anderson hadn?t missed a field goal all year, that was a shock, they were easily the best team in the league, they set the record for most points in a season.
Like you say Blair Walsh kicked wide left a couple of seasons ago in a playoff loss to the Seahawks, makes you wonder if all that bad luck is playing on the current kickers mind. If the Vikings lose tonight to a missed field goal superstitious fans will start to think the team is cursed.
The Saints are having a nightmare, it?s 2Q and they are down 17-0 and Brees has thrown 2 interceptions. Minnesota defense is getting the job done, Brees is not throwing well for some reason, if he doesn?t wake up soon the Saints will be going back to their swamp with their tail between their legs. If the Vikings score again the game is as good as over, the Saints defense is spending too much time on the field.
Well done the Jaguars knocking out the Steelers from the tournament. Leonard Fournette played well, NFL superstar in the making. Are they good enough to beat the Patriots? No, they?ll do no better than the Titans did this week, the end score will be a bit closer, but the same result - a Patriots win.
Atlanta failed us. However, that game was basically a microcosm of the season for them. Growing pains with new Offensive Coordinator. Poor clutch-time play calling. Matt Ryan trying to force the ball to Jones at all times. They need another WR and a TE in the draft, as they are still missing Tony Gonzalez to this day.
Of course Pittsburgh loses, giving New England the easiest path ever to the Super Bowl. The media is trying to spin that Jacksonville's Defense will be a matchup nightmare for New England, but I'm here to tell you that won't be the case. Jacksonville wrecked the Steelers because Ben always looks for plays to develop downfield. That isn't the Patriots' Game. They will dink and dunk all day long on the Jaguars, easily waltzing in to the Super Bowl.
Glad for Minnesota and Philadelphia for making it; however, these outcomes basically ensure, at least in my mind, that New England will now easily be winning it all. Only New Orleans and Atlanta could've hung with the Patriots. Sadly, Minnesota and Philadelphia cannot. Even with Wentz, the Eagles wouldn't have been able to dethrone Brady. Minnesota will clearly give the Patriots a better run since they would have homefield advantage in the Super Bowl and have the number one rated Defense in the NFL. However, after what I think is going to happen with Brady against Jacksonville's #2 Defense, Minnesota Defensive Advantage won't seem all that great.
With that said, I finally must adjust my Super Bowl Pick: New England vs Minnesota, with New England winning, of course. Hopefully they don't win by more than ten.
Mistakes at the end cost New Orleans that game, they should have taken more time off the clock when they were in field goal range and that cornerback should of wrapped his arms around that Vikings reciever and just brought him down instead of missing a hard hit and letting the guy go for the winning touchdown.
Looks like New England are going to win the Super Bowl again, I can't see either Minnesota or Philadelphia stopping Tom Brady from disecting them. It should have been Brady vs Brees in the final, that would have been an interesting game.
Unbelievable by Diggs. Awful by that NO player. After losing a 17-0 HT lead to trail 23-24 with 39 seconds left it looked like the curse would not be broken. Once again the NO running game was atrocious, and those Brees INTs were costly. It's strange to say, but Keenum was the better QB today. Same completion percentage, and Keenum with 24 more yards & only the 1INT. Even though 3TDs are valuable I'd take a 1:1 ratio over a 3:2 in playoffs. The Philly defense will be much harder for Keenum, but 300+ yards in his first ever playoff game is still very good.
So glad the Pittsburgh Dogs went one and done, as they deserved. They shouldn't even have featured in playoffs at all. That woeful rush defense of theirs got gashed (4TDs, 164 yards) and the defense in general conceded 45 points!!! One thing's for certain; New England are going straight into the SB to continue their cakewalk season. A scoreline of about 38-10 is expected. That 'elite' Jacksonville defense looks horrible. For Pittsburgh, if your quarterback throws 5TDs and 469 yards and you lose, you have an issue.
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