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The "Beginning" of the Unniverse...if there was one.

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Kenny 2x4 Posted: 15:27 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1348943
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There are 3 theories of how the unniverse began:
1) God created it and everything that you see before yours and our own very eyes.
2) The big bang theory.
3) An infinite regress of the big bang theory, big freeze, big crush, big band, etc.
What do you guys reckon?
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*smithy* Posted: 15:29 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1348951
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well the big band is more realistic



than god creating it
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Arsenal#1 Posted: 15:31 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1348967
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I don't like thinking about it, it confuses me! :(

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Kenny 2x4 Posted: 15:34 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1348976
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On 07-Feb-2007 *smithy* said:well the big band is more realistic



than god creating it
That's true because scientists can show evidence of a big bang, but does it explain if it's an infinite regress? The third theory.
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*smithy* Posted: 15:35 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1348980
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well for god to create the universe the must of been an alternate universe for him to exist while he made this
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Kenny 2x4 Posted: 15:36 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1348989
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Not necessarily. It just means he had to be pretty powerful and something outside this unniverse, but not necessarily in another one.
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Gryphon_Exelsior Posted: 15:36 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1348990
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Well, I have most definately seen this topic twice before...
Anyway, I believe it is God. I am not saying that the others didn't heppen, but it's just what I believe. I will not contradict anybody else here tho lol.
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Kenny 2x4 Posted: 15:39 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1349011
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lol. So what you're saying is he sort of created the big bang and what not.
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Gryphon_Exelsior Posted: 15:42 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1349025
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I can't say entirely of course, but one thing I believe is that god USED science, not only for teh big bang(if that's what happened) but for other things, such as evolution. Basically science was a factor in the creation... it's a possibility.
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CheatX991Xeta Posted: 15:51 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1349052
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This topic isn't goig to end well...

I agree with what arsenal said.

I don't know why we keep studing the past when we should be working on fixing our future...
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jamarie Posted: 15:53 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1349056
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The second one. And actually they don't have proof, it hasn't been tested, but it's a hell lot more realistic than God.


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Gryphon_Exelsior Posted: 15:58 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1349072
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Hey, easy there lol. I don't critisize your beliefs; don't get after mine lol.
Besides. If all we tried to work out was our future then what would honestly be the whole point in this? The past is fascinating to be frank. And there are things, also frankly, to be learned from the past. How to prevent these wars we're seeing from happening. It's endless.
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johnkrill Posted: 16:08 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1349087
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On 07-Feb-2007 Kenny 2x4 said:There are 3 theories of how the unniverse began:
1) God created it and everything that you see before yours and our own very eyes.
2) The big bang theory.
3) An infinite regress of the big bang theory, big freeze, big crush, big band, etc.
What do you guys reckon?
Few things wrong with each theory...

1) The representation of "god" is different for all people, and for those who don't believe in a god (which is fine), they cannot use this theory to explain the universe.

2) What was there before the big bang? Where did the matter for the big bang come from?

3) See 2.

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CheatX991Xeta Posted: 16:25 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1349118
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On 07-Feb-2007 Gryphon_Exelsior said:Hey, easy there lol. I don't critisize your beliefs; don't get after mine lol.
Besides. If all we tried to work out was our future then what would honestly be the whole point in this? The past is fascinating to be frank. And there are things, also frankly, to be learned from the past. How to prevent these wars we're seeing from happening. It's endless.
Well yeah studying wars in the few last centuries is cool, but how will the creation of the universe help us at all...
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screencheat2 Posted: 17:13 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1349195
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What johnkrill said about the second one. How can they back up the big bang theory? That might explain the outward movement of the universe, but that can't explain how everything was created. I believe that God did it, but I'm a religious person.
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johnkrill Posted: 20:16 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1349650
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Yeah. You guys do know that law...

Matter cannot be created or destroyed

If that were true, the big bang could not be created.

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Pikapal642 Posted: 20:29 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1349690
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*sigh* Another topic that will be very religious...

I am religious, so I believe the God theory. Besides, like Johnkrill said, where did the chemicals needed for the Big Bang come from?
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eric t cartman Posted: 20:39 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1349706
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I think God was just all of a sudden there... and he created the universe.

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CaoRen Posted: 22:00 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1349826
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I pretty much go with the Big Bang Theory.

If I were to go with my own, I'd say that nothing is ever dead or never there. If you look at all the moments of the history of the universe, then the universe has always been there. I believe that our feeble human minds make us think is sequence of events and not how time should be looked at... Time is all the time, not just what we see at one time. Overall, I think that the Universe has always been there, because all time should be viewed as all time, not in sequence.

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Oddball Posted: 22:35 Feb07 2007 Post ID: 1349892
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Personally, I reckon that in order for everything to happen, the past must act like the future, if you catch my drift? How do we know that the past isn't as infinite as the future? Like a rewinding movie that never ends. There could have been a God that created God. And one before that God, untill infinite. It's a possibily. If you aren't religeous you could still put the same theory to a different test. It could be infinite that something caused the big bang and that something created that etc. My personal belief.
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