Mr.Clueless Posted: 00:21 Jun26 2008
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Oh, I have one more thing to say about Neko's style. It's not original. Just lurk, you'll see tonnes of vector art in that same style. I mean, his is unique to all of them in a few ways, but the underlining style is still the same. Not to pick on him, I have nothing wrong with him at all. You're just all using him as an example, and I'm just too tired right now not to follow suit. I almost worked from daylight to daybreak today. D=
Again, just because it's unique here, doesn't mean it's unique everywhere, and vice versa; just because a style is whored here, doesn't mean that it's not unique to this site.
Oh, and I'm pretty sure a lot of other people used vector here before Neko did. Rhodri is (was) a prime example.
I can only name a couple of people on this site that have made true vectors, not following any tuts, or using stock images, or anything, and all but a couple of those people are gone. Mainly Rhodri.
And, again, I can only mention a few people who don't normally use whored styless, and again, most are gone. And where? Away from this utter crap forum. It's all drama, and the same crap every day. Preteens who haven't learned how to be a grown up, and think for them selves.
C4Ds and smudge are a great effect, but it starts getting really monotonous seeing, day after day, just smudge tagss and C4D tags, and smudged C4D tags. Why not use other great effects, or develop your own? You people seem to think that if you don't get something right the first time, if you don't get your desired effect after the first time you try something, and it gets ripped to shreds by other noobs, then it's not worth doing, and that you should just drop it. You cannot possibly be further than the truth. That gives you even more reason to continue on with that effect/style.
These so-called fads, these "new and catchy" styles are nothing but that, fads. They come, they live their overzealous lives, and then they die. Why not be the truly cool person, and stray away from those fads? Because, really, to be totally honest, whatever the moagority of the group is doing, whatever people are conforming to at the moment (this is true for all of live) is the furthest thing from the truth. It's wht the media, and people want you to believe, so they can profit from it. And, most importantly, it's what you want to beleive it to be, because you're too damned lazy and afriad to do your own thing, to be truly unique; you're all too lazy and afraid because all you want to do in life is to be like everyone else, and to fit in, to be accepted by society. But, wouldn't it be better, if you were the one people were trying to be like? Wouldn't it be better if you were the one at the top, the one in control? Wouldn't that make you truly happy, and truly able to shed all fear, and to truly accomplish anything?
About people not knowing about what a true vector is, why don't you teach them? Hmmm?
And, Lycanthrope, haven't you ever noticed that the teachers, the people who truly know what they are talking about, never use their martial arts? I mean, they practise it, all the time, because they must, if they wish to continue their mastery. But, they never show it off, they never demonstrate their true power to others, they never use it on other people. And, just why is that? Because they don't have the need, or the want to do anything of the sort. They know what they're capable of, and they don't need to prove anything at all to anyone, anybody. They know that they're better than you, and could kill your pathetic *** so fast you couldn't even measure it in time. And, really, when it gets down to it, that's all that matters.
tl;dr
If you're going to use grunge/smudge/C4Ds/vector, at least be unique and creative about it, and never EVER EVER follow others. That just tells society that you're weak, and scared, and just don't care about yourself, or anyone else for that matter, enough to do something new and exciting. And, nobody on this site has ever EVER created thier own, unique style. Ever.
Again, just because it's unique here, doesn't mean it's unique everywhere, and vice versa; just because a style is whored here, doesn't mean that it's not unique to this site.
Oh, and I'm pretty sure a lot of other people used vector here before Neko did. Rhodri is (was) a prime example.
I can only name a couple of people on this site that have made true vectors, not following any tuts, or using stock images, or anything, and all but a couple of those people are gone. Mainly Rhodri.
And, again, I can only mention a few people who don't normally use whored styless, and again, most are gone. And where? Away from this utter crap forum. It's all drama, and the same crap every day. Preteens who haven't learned how to be a grown up, and think for them selves.
C4Ds and smudge are a great effect, but it starts getting really monotonous seeing, day after day, just smudge tagss and C4D tags, and smudged C4D tags. Why not use other great effects, or develop your own? You people seem to think that if you don't get something right the first time, if you don't get your desired effect after the first time you try something, and it gets ripped to shreds by other noobs, then it's not worth doing, and that you should just drop it. You cannot possibly be further than the truth. That gives you even more reason to continue on with that effect/style.
These so-called fads, these "new and catchy" styles are nothing but that, fads. They come, they live their overzealous lives, and then they die. Why not be the truly cool person, and stray away from those fads? Because, really, to be totally honest, whatever the moagority of the group is doing, whatever people are conforming to at the moment (this is true for all of live) is the furthest thing from the truth. It's wht the media, and people want you to believe, so they can profit from it. And, most importantly, it's what you want to beleive it to be, because you're too damned lazy and afriad to do your own thing, to be truly unique; you're all too lazy and afraid because all you want to do in life is to be like everyone else, and to fit in, to be accepted by society. But, wouldn't it be better, if you were the one people were trying to be like? Wouldn't it be better if you were the one at the top, the one in control? Wouldn't that make you truly happy, and truly able to shed all fear, and to truly accomplish anything?
About people not knowing about what a true vector is, why don't you teach them? Hmmm?
And, Lycanthrope, haven't you ever noticed that the teachers, the people who truly know what they are talking about, never use their martial arts? I mean, they practise it, all the time, because they must, if they wish to continue their mastery. But, they never show it off, they never demonstrate their true power to others, they never use it on other people. And, just why is that? Because they don't have the need, or the want to do anything of the sort. They know what they're capable of, and they don't need to prove anything at all to anyone, anybody. They know that they're better than you, and could kill your pathetic *** so fast you couldn't even measure it in time. And, really, when it gets down to it, that's all that matters.
tl;dr
If you're going to use grunge/smudge/C4Ds/vector, at least be unique and creative about it, and never EVER EVER follow others. That just tells society that you're weak, and scared, and just don't care about yourself, or anyone else for that matter, enough to do something new and exciting. And, nobody on this site has ever EVER created thier own, unique style. Ever.
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Lycanthrope Posted: 05:24 Jun26 2008
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Well then who's a teacher? I'm sure it's not you or yossy or anybody here. I haven't seen anybody teaching anybody so really what does that have to do with the situation here? Explain that to me please cause I really don't know, not trying to be a smart *** or anything I just don't know why that has to do with anything here.
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Jam Jar Posted: 05:56 Jun26 2008
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I was just about to say that, i knew how to vector back in early 2007.
There are certain styles that go round for example there was a point where everyone was making grunge sigs. It's just the sytle atm it will change at some point to something else and everyone will be doing that.
It's just how GFX goes. I personly like simple grayscale sigs.
There are certain styles that go round for example there was a point where everyone was making grunge sigs. It's just the sytle atm it will change at some point to something else and everyone will be doing that.
It's just how GFX goes. I personly like simple grayscale sigs.
ozzo Posted: 06:27 Jun26 2008
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I have to say though, I thought GA was a forum meant for graphics and art work? where people post their art for others to see?
so now they arent allowed to do that because it's "unoriginal"?
I mean, surely they are allowed to try new styles and improve? no one can be good just like that.
yeah, sure, a lot of people AREN'T original, but they can at least be free to do whatever they want really, can't they?
so now they arent allowed to do that because it's "unoriginal"?
I mean, surely they are allowed to try new styles and improve? no one can be good just like that.
yeah, sure, a lot of people AREN'T original, but they can at least be free to do whatever they want really, can't they?
yossy666 Posted: 06:51 Jun26 2008
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^ 'I mean, surely they are allowed to try new styles and improve? no one can be good just like that.'
No. Everyone's allowed to try new things for practise and improvement... but that's not the reason behind people trying the new fads. They do it to fit in.
Also, I love your current signature Bex.
No. Everyone's allowed to try new things for practise and improvement... but that's not the reason behind people trying the new fads. They do it to fit in.
Also, I love your current signature Bex.
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ozzo Posted: 07:07 Jun26 2008
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thanks, it was in sotw a few weeks back
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v-gamer Posted: 08:58 Jun26 2008
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Well I'll admit I use tuts now and then if I'm bored or if I'm not feeling creative. But other than that, that's actually pretty rare.
I get inspired by other sigs, sometimes, but I use my own style. I plan on making something very unique when I get the chance, probably tomorrow. I'm fairly sure it's a sig that SuperCheats won't have seen. But, it'll probably suck. I don't care. I'll keep trying.
Because what you said is true. I personally love to smudge. I like to create different smudge settings and mess around with it.
I've done it in my current tag, to create flow, and the basic background, and what-not.
What I said was pretty much based on me, comparing to what you said. I can't really compare to the other artists' on this site because I believe that not all their work gets posted here. So I may see some, but not all.
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Well I'll admit I use tuts now and then if I'm bored or if I'm not feeling creative. But other than that, that's actually pretty rare.
I get inspired by other sigs, sometimes, but I use my own style. I plan on making something very unique when I get the chance, probably tomorrow. I'm fairly sure it's a sig that SuperCheats won't have seen. But, it'll probably suck. I don't care. I'll keep trying.
Because what you said is true. I personally love to smudge. I like to create different smudge settings and mess around with it.
I've done it in my current tag, to create flow, and the basic background, and what-not.
What I said was pretty much based on me, comparing to what you said. I can't really compare to the other artists' on this site because I believe that not all their work gets posted here. So I may see some, but not all.
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Lycanthrope Posted: 10:12 Jun26 2008
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How do you know that's the reason? Maybe they are trying to improve, you don't know what it is for sure neither do I.
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All of this you are talking about is'nt vector, it's Vexel. Easily mistaken.
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factor_x55 Posted: 12:27 Jun26 2008
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Have you ever wondered why these different styles turn into fads? I don't think it's because people are trying to fit in. It's because at the time, they were truly amazing styles. I mean, if I see a style I like, of course I'm going to try it out. If people are just making graphics because it's fun, then they're probably going to just do they styles that they like. But if you make tags because you enjoy every aspect of art, and you like trying new things out to get your desired effect, then I can see how these fads would be annoying to you. But you (Well, I) can't really be mad at others just because they don't fully appreciate the beauty of all art. Some aspects of art aren't interesting to people. Maybe smudging is the only thing they really like. I don't know. I think fads are stupid, but not really that annoying.
ieatwyverns Posted: 18:12 Jun26 2008
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I count my name 14 times in this topic.
not bad...
On a serious note? I'd like to point a couple of things out.
nobody on this site has ever EVER created thier own, unique style. Ever.
'a lot of other people used vector here before Neko did.'
I have to say though, I thought GA was a forum meant for graphics and art work? where people post their art for others to see?
so now they arent allowed to do that because it's "unoriginal"?
I mean, surely they are allowed to try new styles and improve? no one can be good just like that.
yeah, sure, a lot of people AREN'T original, but they can at least be free to do whatever they want really, can't they?
All agreed with, thoroughly.
The fact that there are an infinite amount of different styles out there makes it virtually impossible to create a totally unique style.
If you try hard enough, you could find similarities between any piece of artwork and another. Surely then, that means you can claim the artist hasn't been original?
I put Becky's post in there, because I believe she brings up the best point here. So what if people aren't original. No-one is totally original all of the time, no-one. That doesn't mean that they should get beaten and locked up for producing artwork that looks similar to someone else's though. They look for advise from you people so that they can improve, for goodness sake. Most of the time, they just get harassed for either it being pathetic or unoriginal.
I don't want people to think that I brought the vector style to SC and I shall be sorely saddened if this argument derived simply because of me.
not bad...
On a serious note? I'd like to point a couple of things out.
nobody on this site has ever EVER created thier own, unique style. Ever.
'a lot of other people used vector here before Neko did.'
I have to say though, I thought GA was a forum meant for graphics and art work? where people post their art for others to see?
so now they arent allowed to do that because it's "unoriginal"?
I mean, surely they are allowed to try new styles and improve? no one can be good just like that.
yeah, sure, a lot of people AREN'T original, but they can at least be free to do whatever they want really, can't they?
All agreed with, thoroughly.
The fact that there are an infinite amount of different styles out there makes it virtually impossible to create a totally unique style.
If you try hard enough, you could find similarities between any piece of artwork and another. Surely then, that means you can claim the artist hasn't been original?
I put Becky's post in there, because I believe she brings up the best point here. So what if people aren't original. No-one is totally original all of the time, no-one. That doesn't mean that they should get beaten and locked up for producing artwork that looks similar to someone else's though. They look for advise from you people so that they can improve, for goodness sake. Most of the time, they just get harassed for either it being pathetic or unoriginal.
I don't want people to think that I brought the vector style to SC and I shall be sorely saddened if this argument derived simply because of me.
Mr.Clueless Posted: 23:41 Jun26 2008
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There are many different ways to teach, not just one. Teach by example, teach by leading, teach by criticism, teach by blah blah blah. Point is, a lot of people on this site teach others, whether it be direct or indirect. Also, I have actually taught a few people directly, but through MSN.
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Destined Sorrow Posted: 23:43 Jun26 2008
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i am one of those peple on MSN woot but yea this thread is just loads of crap
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Other Mods, do you think I should close this? It's probably gonna end in a big flame fest.
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Mr.Clueless Posted: 08:22 Jun27 2008
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I'll close it.
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-Pool's closed-
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