thanks heaps, so what about this subsistence one? is it exactly the same as MSG3 with beta graphics or wat? coz i've looked at some screen shots online and there are sum backgrounds i didn't see in the original...i can't wait for MSG4 to come out - pleaz don't tell me its gonna be on PS3, im sick of having to buy new consoles like every year just to be able to play the games i want! do u know wen MSG4 is coming out in AUS?