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steel dragons Posted at: 07:32 Oct12 2009 Post ID: 2749739
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Well, I have been testing out this team for a while, and for the most part it has seemed to be doing well. However, there are some things I know I can change, because I have two pursuit weak pokemon and two choice scarf pokemon, which isn't a good thing.

Also, for most teams to work well, I believe that there is a pokemon that should cause a surprise for your opponents team; in other words using a custom EV spread, a pokemon's moveset that is not used much, or using a pokemon that is not used much at all. So, before you suggest that I should have a dragon dance Salamence on my team, try to think of something that is not used much before that.

Now, for the team:

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Crobat w/ Leftovers
Jolly nature
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Spe, 132 Atk, 124 HP
- Super Fang
- U-turn
- Taunt
- Hypnosis

[left]Well, this lead has worked out well for me. It can stop the opponent from setting up stealth rocks most of the time because of its speed. It can also give some damage to most pokemon with super fang and u-turn. Hypnosis can be replaced with something else if a good argument is made for it, but I have liked having the ability to possibly put the opponent to sleep.
--Crobat works well, but I have been considering other leads, mainly Dragonite with lum berry and extremespeed, which can stop both sleep and fake out leads, and sub dance Gyarados with lum berry, which can stop sleep leads and doesn't really care for fake out leads, which are mostly Infernapes anyway.

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Empoleon w/ Leftovers
Calm nature
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP, 160 Def, 92 SpD, 4 Spe
- Surf
- Grass Knot
- Stealth Rock
- Roar

[left]Empoleon has set up stealth rocks very reliably, as it can switch into one of its many resistances, then set up the floating rocks. Also, it can be used as a special wall, and it does well aganist some other bulky water pokemon, like Suicune, which Empoleon can roar away if needed, and Swampert, which Empoleon can 2HKO with grass knot. I like using roar on Empoleon, for it both gives me information on the opponents team and racks up damage via stealth rock.
--I really like using Empoleon for this role, for it is somewhat unexpected, as most people can expect the sub/agility sweeper. I don't think that I would change it unless someone gave a really good argument for it.

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Mamoswine w/ Life Orb
Jolly nature
Ability: Snow Cloak
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spe, 4 HP
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Stone Edge
- Superpower

[left]I have recently been testing Mamoswine, and I have not been having much success with it so far. Anyway, it outspeeds neutral natured Lucarios, and Mamoswine can hit them with STAB earthquakes. Also, it makes a good counter for dragons with ice shard. The last two moves don't do too much for it, but they do help in some situations.
--I am considering a replacement for Mamoswine. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Rotom-H w/ Choice Scarf
Timid nature
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP, 232 Spe, 24 SpA
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball
- Overheat
- Trick

[left]This Rotom has worked out all right for me. The idea is that it can switch in on one of its resistances, then revenge kill the opponent. Its 252 EVs in HP make it somewhat bulky, so it can even switch in on a weaker hit, then revenge kill the opposition. It is also pursuit weak, which can make it a liability. Anyway, its moves are fairly obvious, and trick helps cripple some opposing walls, like Blissey.
--This Rotom form is all right. I like its EV spread, which is different from the norm, but I will also consider a replacement for it.

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Celebi w/ Life Orb
Timid nature
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SpA, 220 Spe, 36 Def
- Leaf Storm
- Psychic
- Hidden Power Fire
- Recover

[left]Celebi has actually done well for this team. Most people don't expect this kind of set, which is only wholly resisted by Houndoom and Heatran. Technically, it is pursuit weak, but it does major damage to the three main pursuit users, which are Scizor, Tyranitar, and Metagross. Leaf Storm hits really hard in many situations, despite many pokemon having resistances to it.
--This Celebi works well in my opinion. The only move I would consider replacing is recover, which I do not use that much when using this Celebi. I might change it to either rest or earth power.

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Salamence w/ Choice Scarf
Naughty nature
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk, 176 Spe, 80 SpA
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Hydro Pump

[left]This Salamence is my late game sweeper. I usually know what the last two pokemon are on someones team, then I usually can bring in Salamence and outrage them to death. I don't like bringing in Salamence in early, but sometimes I am forced to in order to revenge kill something threatening. I usually just use outrage on this Salamence, but sometimes I find occasions to use its other moves, primarily earthquake.
--I really don't think that I would change this Salamence for something else.

Well, there is my team. If you have any suggestions or comments, please feel free to tell me.

« Last edited by steel dragons on Oct 14th 2009 »
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My highest OU rating on the Team Uber server was around 1606 (1/31/10)
[url=http://forums.supercheats.com/topic.php?topic=111412][size=16][color=yellow]Find the Supercheats Summer tournament here (Click here).[/url]
[size=12][b][color=green]I am usually available for shoddy battles on most Thursdays through Sundays at night, GMT-4.
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steel dragons Posted at: 14:05 Oct13 2009 Post ID: 2750344
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Hey, if anyone has any suggestions for this team, please comment. I would appreciate any helpful advice from experienced people. At least twelve people have looked at this, yet no one has rated it yet.
[center][size=13][color=lightblue]Accomplishments/Statistics:
My highest OU rating on the Team Uber server was around 1606 (1/31/10)
[url=http://forums.supercheats.com/topic.php?topic=111412][size=16][color=yellow]Find the Supercheats Summer tournament here (Click here).[/url]
[size=12][b][color=green]I am usually available for shoddy battles on most Thursdays through Sundays at night, GMT-4.
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steel dragons Posted at: 15:41 Oct20 2009 Post ID: 2753459
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Hey, will anyone comment on this team? It has had at least 40 views already...
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My highest OU rating on the Team Uber server was around 1606 (1/31/10)
[url=http://forums.supercheats.com/topic.php?topic=111412][size=16][color=yellow]Find the Supercheats Summer tournament here (Click here).[/url]
[size=12][b][color=green]I am usually available for shoddy battles on most Thursdays through Sundays at night, GMT-4.
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Beta X Posted at: 14:21 Oct21 2009 Post ID: 2753773
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I cant dind anything wrong with this team. But later I will look closer.



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FinalFantasy3Freak Posted at: 17:08 Oct21 2009 Post ID: 2753917
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i would highly suggest adding either a dusknoir or a pokemon with toxic spikes to this team.
right now you're worrying about covering attacking rather than covering your defenses and weakening the opponent. no offense but your style seems to be kinda neanderthal "Quick strong guy go boom on bad guy" "me just take hits" you need to strategize a little more



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Beta X Posted at: 18:01 Oct21 2009 Post ID: 2753984
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I would give Mamo a Choice Band set. To hit harder. I would give Celebi Rest over Recover. To Rest, switch to another pokemon that resists, then maybe set up(But you have no set up pokemon other than Empoleon).



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steel dragons Posted at: 10:11 Oct22 2009 Post ID: 2754247
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Thanks for the comments everyone.
For Beta X:
Right now, I will give Celebi rest over recover. I don't want to give Mamoswine a choice band set because this will allow for other pokemon to set up on it.
For FinalFantasy3Freak:
At lest half of the pokemon in OU are immune to toxic spikes. Most teams that I have seen (like in the Smogon forums) usually have around four to five pokemon immune to toxic spikes. I can see what you mean about my strategy. I don't play shoddy as much as I would like to, so I am still learning some things. I am thinking about including some set-up pokemon on this team, like DD Salamence or something like that. I might also change my Crobat to be a Smeargle lead with the moves spore, stealth rock, (toxic spikes/spikes), and trick with holding the choice scarf. Or, I might consider a Azelf lead with knowing psychic, explosion, trick, and stealth rock, with having a naive nature, holding a choice scarf, and having EVs: 252 Spe, 244 SpA, 8 Atk, and 4 HP. Both of these leads have upsides and downsides, but I think that I am liking the Azelf lead better at this point.
[center][size=13][color=lightblue]Accomplishments/Statistics:
My highest OU rating on the Team Uber server was around 1606 (1/31/10)
[url=http://forums.supercheats.com/topic.php?topic=111412][size=16][color=yellow]Find the Supercheats Summer tournament here (Click here).[/url]
[size=12][b][color=green]I am usually available for shoddy battles on most Thursdays through Sundays at night, GMT-4.
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steel dragons Posted at: 16:00 Oct24 2009 Post ID: 2755396
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Hello. Anyone there?

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[center][size=13][color=lightblue]Accomplishments/Statistics:
My highest OU rating on the Team Uber server was around 1606 (1/31/10)
[url=http://forums.supercheats.com/topic.php?topic=111412][size=16][color=yellow]Find the Supercheats Summer tournament here (Click here).[/url]
[size=12][b][color=green]I am usually available for shoddy battles on most Thursdays through Sundays at night, GMT-4.
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Battle?
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Battle?
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exploding typhoon Posted at: 01:17 Sep15 2012 Post ID: 3149875
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What generation is this team? I'm only 5th Gen savvy, honestly. xd
I can tell you that carrying Hydro Pump on your Salamence does absolutely no good though, and you'd be better off giving him a Life Orb. That way you can fit Dragon Dance onto him, boosting his sweeping potential.
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uploadin Posted at: 23:49 Jan02 2013 Post ID: 3193494
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add counter or toxic move to smash.
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Forum Guest Posted at: 14:53 May20 2015 Post ID: 3379019
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I would switch mamoswine to luxray
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