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factor_x55 Posted at: 15:26 Dec22 2007 Post ID: 2042552
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Gliscor (F) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Hyper Cutter
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Thunder Fang
- Ice Fang
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

Probably not expected. I have Thunder Fang to take care of things like Gyarados, Ice Fang to take care of things like Salamence, and Stone edge to take care of things like Aerodactyl and Weavile. It should take care of Weavile if Weavile isn't holding Focus Sash/Choice Scarf or doesn't use Ice Shard. There IS a chance that Aerodactyl will survive Stone Edge. I think the minimum damage it will do is about 95%.

Rhyperior (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Avalanche
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge

Helps with Salamence if Gliscor doesn't take care of him, and Garchomp. Earthquake and Stone Edge for STAB. Stealth Rock just because.

Gallade (M) @ Expert Belt
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 158 HP / 252 Atk / 60 Spd / 40 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Psycho Cut
- Swords Dance
- Night Slash

Close Combat OHKOs Blissey. Swords Dance to increase his attack even more. Night Slash to help with Ghosts and Psychics. Psycho Cut takes care of Weezing easier.

Porygon-Z @ Life Orb
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Tri Attack
- Dark Pulse
- Hyper Beam
- Nasty Plot

Pretty much the standard Nasty Plot set up. I was thinking about going with Hidden Power [Fighting] over Hyper Beam, but Gallade is frail, and Hyper Beam will be an OHKO to Blissey.

Milotic (F) @ Wide Lens
Ability: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP / 236 Def / 22 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Surf
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Toxic

I have Wide Lens because of the Item Clause, and it increases the accuracy of Toxic.

Forretress (F) @ Shed Shell
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Def / 162 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Spikes
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Explosion

Iunno.
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Fusion_Blastoise Posted at: 17:46 Dec22 2007 Post ID: 2042832
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Umm, just curious,why would you use stone edge againts aerodactly when you have Ice fang?

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DemonOfSand Posted at: 18:22 Dec22 2007 Post ID: 2042885
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Go with an Impish nature on Fort.
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Game_n_sk8 Posted at: 17:19 Dec23 2007 Post ID: 2044165
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Gliscor: Creative set you have. But I don't think Stone Edge is really necessary. Maybe give it U-Turn to literally hit and run, or Night Slash for Gengar. Aerial Ace is also an option for Heracross, even though it would be dumb to stay in against Gliscor if you're a Heracross.

Porygon Z - Needs a focus sash or else it will die right after Nasty Plot

Milotic - Needs a bold nature

Forretress - Only used Relaxed if using Gyro Ball with it, which is stronger than EQ, and OHKOs Weaviles, Alakazams, and other Fragile sweepers.

You need a special wall. I suggest Dusknoir, or Umbreon.
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DemonOfSand Posted at: 17:24 Dec23 2007 Post ID: 2044179
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I thought Dusknoir was a Physical Wall.
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godzillaboy96 Posted at: 17:37 Dec23 2007 Post ID: 2044219
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Dusknoir can be either or both. Another good Sp. Wall could be Cresselia.

To me everything looks pretty decent, the only thing I dont really like is Milotic's moveset, but thats just me.

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DemonOfSand Posted at: 17:41 Dec23 2007 Post ID: 2044227
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I never heard of anyone using Dusknoir as a Sp.Wall, cool.
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godzillaboy96 Posted at: 17:44 Dec23 2007 Post ID: 2044231
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On 23-Dec-2007 DemonOfSand said:I never heard of anyone using Dusknoir as a Sp.Wall, cool.
Most people prefer to put EVs in Def. and HP because of the many Physical Sweepers out there some were already pointed out. ex: Salamence, Garchomp, Heracross, Metagross, and etc. I think there are more than Sp. Sweepers, well youll most likely see more.

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factor_x55 Posted at: 13:16 Dec24 2007 Post ID: 2045202
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On 22-Dec-2007 Fusion_Blastoise said:Umm, just curious,why would you use stone edge againts aerodactly when you have Ice fang?
Because Ice Fang doesn't do enough damage. I used a damage calculator. In case you were thinking like I was, Rock isn't weak to Ice. I thought Aerodactyl was 4x weak to Ice, but he's only 2x.
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factor_x55 Posted at: 13:21 Dec24 2007 Post ID: 2045212
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On 23-Dec-2007 Game_n_sk8 said:Gliscor: Creative set you have. But I don't think Stone Edge is really necessary. Maybe give it U-Turn to literally hit and run, or Night Slash for Gengar. Aerial Ace is also an option for Heracross, even though it would be dumb to stay in against Gliscor if you're a Heracross.

Porygon Z - Needs a focus sash or else it will die right after Nasty Plot

Milotic - Needs a bold nature

Forretress - Only used Relaxed if using Gyro Ball with it, which is stronger than EQ, and OHKOs Weaviles, Alakazams, and other Fragile sweepers.

You need a special wall. I suggest Dusknoir, or Umbreon.
I was thinking about U-Turn, but I have Stone Edge to take care of Weavile.

I'm using Milotic as my special wall. And yeah, Bold nature. I forgot all about Milotic needing a Bold nature.

And I guess I'll go with Gyro Ball to get that extra power.

Edit: Should I get rid of Earthquake for U-Turn, or should I keep Earthquake for a STAB move?

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redbaron645 Posted at: 14:47 Dec28 2007 Post ID: 2049498
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once the cat is out of the bag and you reveal that gliscor is scarfed, mixape will absolutely rape this team, OHKOing rhyperior, foretress, and porygon-z. It also ohko's milotic after a grass knot. Erm. half your team is instantly ohko'd and you have one pokemon that outspeeds it. just a thought, as infernape is quite the standard these days.
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