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Zair Hidamaru Posted at: 17:59 Aug15 2007 Post ID: 1842599
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C'MON people, quit arguing about who's better Marth or Roy!!!! Stay on topic!!!! And it doesn't matter who's stronger, it's who you're better with, so get over it!!!!
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max gamer Posted at: 09:18 Aug23 2007 Post ID: 1865374
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i cant wait till ice climbers are gone they sucked
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TWILIGHT LINK Posted at: 17:51 Aug23 2007 Post ID: 1867250
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Marth and Roy make an awesome team.

And, you are right Zair Hidamaru, they are both equal. Marth has speed, and Roy has power.

Yes they do suck MG.

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ansemthewise Posted at: 12:37 Aug24 2007 Post ID: 1869332
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I dont think Iv'e ever use them cause they looked like they would die right away and I hated there moving stage.


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Zair Hidamaru Posted at: 11:29 Aug25 2007 Post ID: 1872270
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They LOOkED like it, but they're much stronger if you know how to use them.
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Volke Posted at: 07:59 Aug28 2007 Post ID: 1881194
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You guys don't know anything. Marth is much better than Roy. But I'm not going into that here, unless you really want me to. I'm realy sick of explaining why. Roy is a lot easier to use for beginners and intermediates though.

Characters I want to get the axe: Pichu, Mr. Game and Watch, Ice Climbers, Ness and Young Link. Basically the rubbish characters that can't really br made much better. I also calssed Mewtwo and a few others as rubbish characters, but they could be made a lot better.
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TWILIGHT LINK Posted at: 08:06 Aug29 2007 Post ID: 1883681
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Even my brother agrees that Roy is just as good. He's a Marth player, and I'm a Roy player. But he agrees Roy is just as useful as Marth.

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Xtreme gamer Posted at: 18:02 Aug31 2007 Post ID: 1889579
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Let's see, all of the useless charcaters;

All the pokemon
Mr. Game and Watch
Ice Climbers
Ness
Dr Mario (What's the difference?)
Ganondorf (C. Falcon is the man!)
Peach

Characters they should add;
Ephraim (Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones)
Remade C.Falcon
Wind Waker Link
Veiwtiful Joe


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max gamer Posted at: 18:03 Aug31 2007 Post ID: 1889584
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wow watch your moth on the pokemon jigglypuff isnt good so bye to her, pikachu stays
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Pandaemonium Posted at: 06:30 Sep01 2007 Post ID: 1890532
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Ganondorf should stay, but with the Sage's Sword and some projectile magic. Final Smash involves transforming into Ganon and leathering everything.
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max gamer Posted at: 06:46 Sep01 2007 Post ID: 1890536
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ya i think so to pan
and pikachu should have volt tackle as her final smash

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Pandaemonium Posted at: 06:49 Sep01 2007 Post ID: 1890538
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Don't you read the Smash Dojo website? Volt Tackle is Pikachu's Final Fmash.
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max gamer Posted at: 06:50 Sep01 2007 Post ID: 1890539
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oh woops i hardly read them
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falco_belmont Posted at: 20:13 Sep03 2007 Post ID: 1897417
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Nothing that hasn't been said...

Jiggly(useless), Ice climbers, pichu(crappy clone of pika), mewtwo(stupid), marth(they already have another fire emblem guy), peach(but shes in it), young link(nothing really diff between him and link), maybe zelda(but shes in it), bowser(too slow, too useless except to whoop on)

i wish they'd keep falco...melee was overrun by zelda and mario characters they should even it out a bit. (zelda/sheik,ylink,link,ganon)4 (mario,dr.mario,luigi,yoshi,bowser,peach, etc) it should be even ratio but more mario characters tho they have the most right to be there really just not so many.
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bradthegamemaster Posted at: 20:31 Sep03 2007 Post ID: 1897459
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why do yall want characters axed?if u dont like them dont use them,other people will use them.although dr.mario got on my nerves alot!i hope he dies a horrible death but only him!EvilSmile

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Volke Posted at: 12:47 Sep04 2007 Post ID: 1898330
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People who hate Marth/think he is equal to or worse than Roy - The fact that you know barely anything about which players are good on a competitive level does not compensate for wanting Marth, and some other players you all underrate, such as Jigglypuff, who was by far better than any other pok�mon in Melee, out of the game. Just because you can't use a character that's beyond your skill level to control well, it doesn't mean they are bad.

Maybe I should find the Melee tier list and post it here. Note that the tier list was assembled by the professionals at the game, who are by far better than anyone on this site I assure you.

EDIT - I've found the tier list. Now don't cry if your favourite character is at the bottom half:

Top
Sheik
Fox
Marth

Upper
Peach
Falco
C. Falcon
Samus

High
Jigglypuff
Dr. Mario
Ganondorf
Mario
Ice Climbers

Mid
Luigi
Link
Roy
DK
Pikachu
Zelda

Low
Ness
Young Link
Yoshi
Kirby
Mr. Game & Watch
Bowser

Bottom
Mewtwo
Pichu

The order in which characters are listed in their specific tier is completely random.

Incase you're stupid enough not to believe me, this tier list was taken from the Compendium of Smash Knowledge topic. If you want to find it, and check, it's one of the pinned threads in the Super Smash Bros. Melee forums (yes, on this site).

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falco_belmont Posted at: 19:27 Sep05 2007 Post ID: 1900432
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I can say that is close to accurate. I can whoop some **** with Fox as well, but I didn't know it till recently. I usually played Falco and my brother played as Fox. But my game got erased so I was usin Fox. I'm also pretty good with Dr. Mario and Link.

But then also, like Brad was saying just don't use the ones you don't like. If they were to keep all the characters, and just add to them... I'd be a happy.......person.
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bradthegamemaster Posted at: 20:18 Sep05 2007 Post ID: 1900549
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yes i agree with falco_belmont,just add,no deleting[except dr.mario let him burn!!!Evil]

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Volke Posted at: 12:31 Sep06 2007 Post ID: 1900963
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On 05-Sep-2007 falco_belmont said:I can say that is close to accurate. I can whoop some **** with Fox as well, but I didn't know it till recently. I usually played Falco and my brother played as Fox. But my game got erased so I was usin Fox. I'm also pretty good with Dr. Mario and Link.

But then also, like Brad was saying just don't use the ones you don't like. If they were to keep all the characters, and just add to them... I'd be a happy.......person.
Well, even though they are in different tiers, all characters in the Top, Upper and High tiers can be used very well as a primary character. When it comes to Middle tier though, the characters become a little unreliable to use primarily. For example, the world's best Roy user doesn't use Roy as his main, because he thinks Roy is too unreliable in full force compared to other character, and Roy is a Middle tier character.

Many of the good characters, such as Marth and Sheik, might not seem too good at first, and there are better choices for beginning players. But when players get to an expert level, it is better for them to try out characters such as Marth and Sheik and learn how to use them well. It's not that simple, though, as preferences still occur.
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klaww Posted at: 13:44 Sep08 2007 Post ID: 1904079
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On 09-Sep-2006 a blind kid said:I wouldn't get rid of Mewtwo. He's really good for annoying the crap out of people. :D
As with Ganondorf, all he needs is a different moveset other than C. Falcon's.
And Marth? Marth is pretty good if you can use him correctly. He's much faster and more suited for one-on-one combat.
Those are only my opinions anyways...
you know, they did stuff like this on perpose, every character, except a few, have clones, dr.mario, mario and luigi, teh same, samus and mewtwo,link/younglink, jigglypuff/ kirby, marth/ roy, pichu/pikachu, and more
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