heres some strageties to pull both out
VWXYZ- pain full choice pick all of them skull lair remove all of the others from play then either, return from different dimension ,or dimension fusion, bring all out combine then combine again
ADLV10- ADLV3 , level up, to LV5 use effect pull ADLV7 then next turn ADLV10 there you have it
or monster reborn LV5, Level up (card), to LV7 then pull LV10
i think ADLV10 is easy to pull out yea your right