A quote someone had in their sig

Alright I have no clue where this would belong but move wherever you have to. Now at one point there was person and they had a quote in their sig by like Thomas Jefferson or one of the old history founding father guys. It went something like "if a law is unjust then you must break it?" Something like I'd just like to know the exact quote and by whom it was because I'm gonna need it. Why I'm gonna need? I'd rather not talk about it because it's personal.

If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so. - Thomas Jefferson

Actually, it's...

"If a law is unjust, a man not only has the right to disobey it, but he is obligated to do so."

Oh, one word off with same meaning, so horrible. :p

Seriously, Qwert, you should be ashamed. XD

Thanks a lot guys

Now, who was it that had that quote in their sig? Oh god, it's on the tip of my tounge...

OH I know where this goes!

Education forum. Too late... :P

Aww... I saw this topic and I thought you meant me...

Then again who decides if a law is unjust? If its just you then Id think hard first before you break it.

Did you know that there are so many laws today that everybody breaks atleast one a day without knowing it?

^Would suck to have to put yourself in jail if your a police officer then. :p

Those who do not share the same views of justice as the vast majority are usually considered mad.

For example, if I believe that a law that prevents me from murdering my neighbour who plays his music is too loud is not just, should I go and kill him?

The obvious response would be "If he considers murder to be a rational solution, then he is mad", but I can guarantee that everyone here has considered killing someone at least once, and has wished that murder was permitted. Everyone who has every believed that someone has deserved death is a hypocrite if they believe that murder is wrong. Well, from my point of view they are, if that matters at all.
Basically, I find it hard to believe that murder can be justified in some situations and in others not, depending on who orders it.

Agree or don't agree... this is the Internet.

What Jefferson means in that quote is that if there's a law that is repressing people, stripping their human rights, and making an unjust and unequal world, it's up to you to stand up against that law to fight against that inequality. It's up to the person who thinks the law is unjust if they really believe that the law is stripping people of their human rights and making them more unequal. For example, if, in say Africa, a law came into play that anyone with brown eyes had to lick clean that feet of everyone else in that country, THAT would be something to stand up against, but if it's something like seniors not being allowed to eat in their rooms at an apartment, would that really be something to stand up against?

On 08-Mar-2009 qwertyuio said:

^Would suck to have to put yourself in jail if your a police officer then. :p

meh worst offenders for certain crimes!

On 09-Mar-2009 imaloony8.0 said:

What Jefferson means in that quote is that if there's a law that is repressing people, stripping their human rights, and making an unjust and unequal world, it's up to you to stand up against that law to fight against that inequality. It's up to the person who thinks the law is unjust if they really believe that the law is stripping people of their human rights and making them more unequal. For example, if, in say Africa, a law came into play that anyone with brown eyes had to lick clean that feet of everyone else in that country, THAT would be something to stand up against, but if it's something like seniors not being allowed to eat in their rooms at an apartment, would that really be something to stand up against?

I'm not sure if what Jefferson said was in a speech or not, but either way, I haven't heard that phrase before. Was what you just said clearly explained by the man who said it, or is that the way you and others have come to understand it?

Becuase, if it was explained that way, I'm sorry. I take back everything I said and I shall keep my opinions on this subject to myself.

This quote, it is similar to the latin principle.

"Lex Dubio non Obligat"

when your translate it in the english language, it will be just like what Thomas J. said.

This comes to effect when there is three elements. the authority, the subject, and the command.

For example, when the authorities said to the subject that they should steal one another's car. the subject has all the right not to obey the command because it is unreasonable.

Stealing is wrong and therefore unsensible.

This also applies that you can disobey orders which all wisdom and by all means unsensible given in such condition and time.

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hope i helped :D

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Ya, only just a month old, so closed .