Strongest

Which non-starter or non-ledgened seems strongest in this game?

Lucario I think.

Yeah, Lucario seems very much strong for a non-legend non-starter.

I definalty thought he was a legended at first. Im glad he isnt though because then you could have multiple Lucarios.

Ramparuto or something like that. It has massive base Attack stat.

Realy? i never realy looked.

Check it out. Not looked at all the pok�mon though.

Ramuparudo is the name. It can have a max of 471 Attack, massive.

Lucario is a close 2nd.

On 15-Feb-2007 EspeonDude_ said:

Ramuparudo is the name. It can have a max of 471 Attack, massive.

Lucario is a close 2nd.

Although none of his other stats are anything special. But as a bonus Snow Slide is a physical move and Ramuparudo is very slow. I like those odds.

I believe that machamp is actually going to become one of the strongest pokemon in the game because of its new ability that is when machamp is battling all attacks from machamp and its foe shall always hit. This makes machamp very useful because low accuracy moves such as dynamic punch will be able to always hit their opponent while also unleashing their powerful effects.

Realy? i should have taken the time to read all of the new affects.

Machamp is going to be OverUsed now, lol.

Add the effect of Choice Band, good luck.

Im already thinking of plans for machamp...lol, his ability sounds cool, I might add him to my collection as a surprise pokemon against my friend.

I see a lot of people are going to be on the Machamp band wagon because of his new added effect....lol.

On 15-Feb-2007 nyeem78 said:

I see a lot of people are going to be on the Machamp band wagon because of his new added effect....lol.

Aha! band wagon XD, just cuz u thought that, now I dont want machamp, cuz I hate having the same pokemon that everyone is going to most likely use, unless it was my starter. XD

it isn't that good... this means all status inducing attacks have 100% hit rate as well; it's not just for machamp, this means his opponents too, and machamp is stil too slow to do much, i'd imagine people would stil use gutschamp

my dream has become a reality: dusclop's evolved form has 100 base atk, whlie mirakuge (dark/ghost that's annoying to get) gets quick attacks as well as stabbed pursuit and has officiali made dark/ghost... they are officiali boarder line imba

man, nothing is as broken as that as far as i can tell, most pokes in the 4th gen are gettin some pretty broken stats, but new abilities and moves are given to old poke to boost their effectivness... everything got better by the looks of it...

too much text for first post, more next time

Well I mean you have pokemon to choose from, so if you have one that someone else has that's cool. Its the moveset that you choose will set your Machamp apart from the next person.

Its all in who knows how to use their pokemon to full effect to beat the other challeneger.

Machamp is now ideal now because of his new ability, but just like Fwank said its every pokemon on the field that get's to share his ability (well hopefully that isn't the case)

I already from tha "get-go" didnt like machamp, it was just my random idea till I reserched em up with his ability, but he aint tha one to be on my team, I got far more greater pokemon on my list ready to battle and train up. :D

Cool....he isn't gonna be on my team for sure.....

I've always liked Machamp anyway. So I'll probably go for him.