NFL - Discussion Thread

If San Fran doesn't make the Playoffs, especially if Jimmy G is healthy for the entire year, the talks will start. This is year 3/5 for Shannahan/Lynch.

The problem with Houston is they never win a dang playoff game. They got trashed by Indy, and most people thought that they would thrash Indy.

I don't think Varbel is on any type of hot seat as the coach of Tennessee. Mariota, however, is definitely on the hot seat as a starting QB. Who knows, if he gets hurt (like he usually does), Tannehill might just steal his job from him.

I forgot that last season was his 2nd year at SF. There may well be rumors and talk, but unless they finish 6-10 or lower, he should be safe. I mean, even if they play well, how will they make the playoffs? LA Rams & Seattle will battle it out for the division title, meaning SF need to settle for a wildcard. One of Chicago and Green Bay will probably earn the first, so SF will have one small opportunity. They'll have to rely on as many as 5 other teams who are playoff contenders finishing below them.

Ugh, now the memories come back. 0-30 at home versus Kansas City (who hadn't won a playoff game for literally decades). 7-24 at home versus Indy (6th seed, just). Aggregate of 7-54. They will be interesting now that they start 0-0 rather than 0-3 like they did last season. Had they been 11-2 at week 15 (they were 0-3 and then finished the season 11-2 for an 11-5 record), they would've surely won 1/3 of the remaining games and got the #2 seed.

Yep, I agree with you on the Tennessee coach. All the pressure is on Mariota and him only. It's amazing how things come full circle. In my first ever week following the NFL and posting about it, Miami were 1-3, sacked Philbin, and were playing Tennessee the next week. You told me you were worried, because Mariota was going to be a star. The following 6 quarters were fun (79-10 scoreline), but I'm asking you since you can actually watch the games, why isn't Mariota living up to his potential?

It's going to be interesting seeing how much Patrick Mahommes gets next year when his rookie contract expires. If the likes of Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson are getting ridiculous money for what they bring to the table what will Mahommes worth be? Rumour has it the contract will be in excess of 200 million.

Whatever it is I hope Kansas pay it, the last thing I want to see is Mahommes go to the Patriots and their dynasty lasting another 10 years.

Matt: Mariota and Winston have had zero progression since being drafted. Not sure if that has to do with coaching or their own personal drive. Mariota is accurate like he always has been, but his arm (and body as a whole) has not gotten stronger. As for Winston, he still isn't accurate. They simply aren't getting better for some reason.

Dennis: I'm more interested if Mahomes has the same numbers this year. If he does, then yes, he'll get the largest contract ever, probably forty million a year and like all guaranteed. If not, I would hold off another year before paying him.

« Last edited by Warrior13 on Jun 19th 2019 »

That's a shame. It probably points to this being the end of their Tennessee/Tampa Bay careers. At this level they're good enough to be career backups or even a starter for a few years, but Tennessee & Tampa Bay are in the perfect position to restart at QB with the 2020 draft coming up next.

This time last season most people including myself thought KC would be an outside chance at playoffs and a mediocre team. There was no pressure or expectations on them/him, and now they will be expected to produce 12-4 and 4,000 yards respectively, at a minimum. A full season without Kareem Hunt to support him and possibly no Tyreek Hill as a downfield target will make it tough. I wouldn't be surprised to see the offense drop off because they are spending so much energy improving the defense. And like I said before, KC are no certainties for playoffs, let alone the division title.

« Last edited by Matt77 on Jun 19th 2019 »

I totally forgot about that, still trying to get my head around Cleveland now having Kareem Hunt. I think you're right, Mahommes will not put up the same numbers this year, the backfield threat in Kansas is no longer there. Looks like it's going to be Cleveland with Baker Mayfield putting up the big numbers this year. I cannot for the life of me see how Cleveland cannot reach the playoffs this year with the talent they have at their disposal. Kareem Hunt and Odell Beckham Jnr, who do you double team? I bet Cleveland fans can't wait for the season to start...

Hill has an interview with the NFL on Wednesday. I heard no case will be brought against him legally. I'm sure he'll get to play this year, probably a six game suspension. Mahomes will be happy.

KC's schedule is:

@ Jacksonville - L
@ Oakland - W
vs Baltimore - W
@ Detroit - W
vs Indy - W
vs Houston - W
@ Denver - W
vs Green Bay - L
vs Minnesota - W
@ Tennessee - W
@ LA Chargers - L
vs Oakland - W
@ New England - L
vs Denver - W
@ Chicago - L
vs LA Chargers - W

Looking at their entire schedule, they will have to match their 2018/19 form if they want to win the division. Anything less, and losses will pile up quickly. There is no good time for Hill to take the 6 games, but the first 6 games are the best games for him to miss (even though these 6 aren't easy at all). If KC are smart, they will delay and delay so that Hill misses weeks 2-7 (wk 7 is @ Denver) but not @ Jacksonville.

With or without Hill, I see them going 12-4 or 13-3. Easily.

I'm not sold. Many predictions don't pan out. For all we know, these will be the playoff positions:

1 - Jacksonville
2 - Cincy
3 - New England
4 - Denver
5 - Pittsburgh
6 - LA Chargers

1 - Atlanta
2 - Seattle
3 - NY Giants
4 - Detroit
5 - Minnesota
6 - Washington

It will be interesting to see which teams surprise and which teams flop this season. Make no mistake, there will be several teams that do so.

« Last edited by Matt77 on Jun 26th 2019 »

One of which will be Washington, I get the feeling they will either suddenly become a power in the NFC or Haskins will be another Robert Griffen III. On paper though the team looks like a dynasty in the making but then the same can probably be said for twenty other teams out there which I don't follow closely.

I'll be rooting for Rosen this year, I'd love to see Miami topple New England and become the AFC power, I've always liked their turquoise and orange jerseys from the days of Dan Marino. Why is everyone rating Jacksonville so highly, that team doesn't instantly spring to mind when I think of Super Bowl contenders. Leonard Fournette is about all I know of that team and he's not as good as Saquon Barkley.