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It's not easy getting into Canton, Joe Thiesman and Ken Anderson didn't make it and Ken Stabler only because he passed away recently. I thought all three of those were going to make it easy. Too many pros now are complaining that it is too easy to get into the Hall of Fame now so you guys may be right. I just personally think it will be Brady, Rogers, and Brees from the players currently playing and maybe Mahommes if he continues to play well. Remember there are other positions on the field other than quarterback.

« Last edited by Sanzano on Jun 17th 2021 »

Yeah, it has gotten easier, as Mike alluded to, because of big stats. And that won't be going away since there will now be 17 Regular Season Games.

There's already a huge logjam at WR, too. I'm personally a small hall guy and don't really think guys like Rivers and Stafford should get in.

They will either have to start taking in the different eras or they will have to increase the number of players per year (unfortunately).

There's a bottleneck in general with the HOF. So many great players that use to be finalists but now don't even make it that far because of all the newer players. And forget about Kickers and Punters making it until later selection committees, outside of one here and there. We literally have Ray Guy, Morten Anderson, and Jan Stenerud. That's it. Reggie Roby was a constant finalist for so many years but never got in.

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Reggie Roby was the man, he played for Miami. I'd like to see Pat McAffy make it into the Hall of Fame, he made some unbelievable plays for the Colts, guy has a great podcast now, I love watching it.

Can someone explain to me why Cliff Branch, L.C. Greenwood and Lester Hayes are not in the Hall of Fame? Three absolute legends, I can guess it's because the teams they played for have too many members already. Why has Roger Craig been left out? First running back to get 1000 yards running and receiving.


« Last edited by Sanzano on Jun 17th 2021 »

Too many modern era guys are taking up all the slots each year. Most of those mentioned will have to hope the senior committee puts them in.

But they were vastly better then the modern era guys currently getting inducted. Doesn't make sense, Al Davis always insisted his guys would struggle making it into Canton because of his issues with the NFL.I'm beginning to wonder if he was right.

« Last edited by Sanzano on Jun 18th 2021 »

I completely agree, at least with a number of older players being snubbed. There are so many legends and best of the best that are still not in the HOF.

What players currently in the Hall of Fame do you feel shouldn't be there?

I was reading some articles about it and some of the names were surprising that experts felt shouldn't be in Canton.

Troy Aikman
Art Monk
John Stallworth
Lynn Swan
Marcus Allen
Cris Carter
Kurt Warner
Bob Griese
Chris Hanburger
Andre Tippett
Harry Carson
Russ Grimm
John Riggins
Joe Namath
Fred Dean
Jan Stenarud
Bob Hayes

There were lots of other players too the experts feel shouldn't be in Canton, I've just listed the ones I can remember of the top of my head.

Namath's inclusion shocked me, I know he didn't put up great stats in his career but he was a big reason why the AFL and NFL merged. Troy Aikman they are saying got into Canton because he had a great team around him, and God knows what the two legendary Pittsburg Steelers are doing on it. To be fair their are a few names that are maybe a stretch but none that are outrageous inclusions in my opinion.

« Last edited by Sanzano on Jun 19th 2021 »

Aikman is probably the most egregious name there, in his best statistical year (1992) he didn't lead the league in any category, and in a lot of other years he was never even top 10. Never even hit 3500 yards, never more than 23 TDs, lot of interceptions, short career, carried by Emmitt Smith and Michael Irvin his whole career. The 3 super bowls and being the Cowboys QB got him in.

The modern comparison is probably Eli Manning but Eli has the 2 SB MVPs, the story of beating the undefeated Patriots, and a long iron man career.

Aikman, Warner, Tippet, and Bullet Bob Hayes are a bit of a stretch for me. Aikman has the titles, so I guess that is why he is in. Warner did the most with his limited skillset, but he was never one of the best in my eyes.

Warner's got the cool story, the Super Bowl, and 2 MVPs. A lot of the writers love the interesting stories and players that accumulate awards. Even nonsense like the Pro Bowl where a guy like Trubisky can get in.

What we are all missing is it is The Hall of Fame, 'fame' being the key word. Some of the names I listed above were household names when they were playing even though they didn't put up ground breaking stats, I think Namath, Riggins, and 'bullet Bob fall into this category. Possibly Kurt Warner if you are a newer fan of the NFL. Canton needs these colourful characters as they brought the NFL alive and made it popular.

Yeah, it's definitely not ALL about stats. The way I've heard it described is that the Hall is for players that you couldn't tell the story of the game without.

In that case Eli Manninig is definately getting into Canton as he beat the Patriot dynasty twice in Super Bowls. If Troy Aikman can get in you have to say Ben Rothesburger will sneak in the same way. A popular player who is a household name with a couple of Super Bowl wins under his belt, the two knocks against Big Ben though is he lost a few playoff games he was favored to win and the two rape charges.

Rivers, Stafford, and Ryan have done nothing really, decent stats but no Super Bowls. Joe Thiesmann who played in two Super Bowls, winning one of them and was the league MVP has more of a claim than those three guys. Also Jim Plunkett who won two Super Bowls. I'd also have to put Ken Anderson beore those three decent guys, it wasn't his fault he played for the Cincinnatti Bengals, still managed to reach a Super Bowl but was unlucky to come up against Joe Montana.

« Last edited by Sanzano on Jun 20th 2021 »

I think Super Bowls also come into play, at least for some QBs. Like Marino got in because of his stats and greatness, which overruled the fact that he never won a Super Bowl. Players like Rivers and (likely) Stafford would need to get in the same way. Eli won two, Big Ben won two, Aikman won three. Like I said, I don't think any QB that has won at least two Super Bowl is not in the HOF.

Dennis - Exactly. Eli and Ben will both be getting in. The other 3 I'm doubtful on.

Warrior - Even then Marino has a story - "best QB to never win a Super Bowl". Plunkett is the only QB that's been retired and not gotten in with more than 1 SB win. The list isn't very long:

Tom Brady 7
Joe Montana 4
Terry Bradshaw 4
Troy Aikman 3
Eli Manning 2
Peyton Manning 2
Ben Roethlisberger 2
John Elway 2
Jim Plunkett 2
Bob Griese 2
Roger Staubach 2
Bart Starr 2

And I'd say Plunkett is by a good margin the worst QB of them.

« Last edited by steelersrock01 on Jun 20th 2021 »

Ehh, Griese might be a little worse than Plunkett. Not to mention, he had the 72' and 73' Dolphin Teams that were practically unbeatable under Shula.

That list makes Brady look even more like the GOAT. lol

Griese at least had more TDs than INTs and some pro bowls and all-pros. The pro bowls don't mean much to me but the voters like them.

And yeah Brady is just ridiculous. Incredible how he could pretty easily have 10 if not for miracles by the Giants and Nick Foles.

And Brady is not finished, he could very well end up with 10, Unlikely I know but I wouldn't put it past him.

Jim Plunkett was terrible when he was drafted by the Patriots in the 70s.It was only when he went to the Raiders that he developed into a Super Bowl winning quarterback. If I remember correctly it was 1980 and 1983. That 1983 team is the best team I have seen in the history of the NFL when you match then up player for player. The defence was nasty and the offence explosive. Why they didn't put a run together is beyond me.

« Last edited by Sanzano on Jun 20th 2021 »